My real problem with the Ryan choice

Well, that depends. Look at VPs of 2 term presidents who then immediately ran for president themselves. Bush 1 won. Gore barely lost. Nixon lost an election that may have been decided by vote fraud in Illinois and Texas, but then won the presidency 8 years later. So if Romney wins and serves 2 terms, history would indicate Ryan will be in the game for moving up.

Btw, this will not be the first time I've voted for Ryan. As a lifetime resident of Wisconsin's 1st district, Paul Ryan has been my rep during his entire tenure in the House, and I've naturally voted for him every time. Since he's not resigning his House seat to run for VP, this time I'll actually be voting for him twice!

 

I do not like his Ayn Rand philosophy. It is a philosophy of greed and selfishness. Certainly it is not what Christ taught ... IMHO.

 

I have a problem with that statement. People make up the government. To me your statement says that a Christian should be a Christian in part of their life, but if they are working for the government they can forget their Christianity while on the job. I cannot accept that. This would require us to be schizophrenic Christians playing two roles, Christian in parts of our life and a materialist in other parts of our lives.

People should be Christian in all aspects of their life, not just at home or in the church. We cannot be part-time Christians.

There are dangers in both directions. If my understanding is correct she was for self only and probably would not agree that others should be helped, even through the church.

I found the following article, "Ayn Rand Led Me to Christ: How the anti-Christian philosopher prepared me to hear the gospel," from Christianity Today quite interesting:

I hate her concept of selfishness, but I like her idea that it is up to the individual, not the government to dictate success.[/QUOTE]

Naturally it is best to read the entire article.

 

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Did Jesus Christ teach acceptance or facilitation of the slaughter of the unborn? When He said: Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.[Luke 18:16] He was not advising butchers to hurry them on their way. You appear to be very selective in your view of what Jesus Christ taught!

 

What can be more selfish than the slaughter of the unborn child, always for convenience. You have embraced, aided and abetted those who have advocated and facilitated this slaughter without bounds. This country with its slaughter of more than fifty million babies makes the holocaust of Nazi Germany look down right tame!

Your argument that the democrats do more for the poor and middle class than Republicans is false. Surely you don't think that all Republicans are rich. In fact the richest people in the country are democrats.

I doubt that there is a rich person on this Forum [other than perhaps you] but the vast majority seem to lean toward the Conservative philosophy of limited government. Some are sufficiently young to have parents on SS and Medicare. Do you really think they despise their parents. Yet that is the mantra of the socialist party you embrace!

 

The topic is about Romney's selection as his running mate ... what we like or do not like about him. You are totally off topic. Try being on topic and saying what you like or do not like about him.
Is it that you just like to derail threads?

Now to the OP. I see nothing in Ayn Rand's philosophy that can be called Christian. Ryan says he has backed off from his belief in her philosophy. I am not so sure that is true when I read about his proposed budget.

She was an avowed athiest, not a friend to Chistian beliefs.

It is my belief thaty there is nothing in the following of Christ that allows us to accept or prohibit an action of an individual in their private life while, at the same time, saying these same action is permissible to that individual in their public life.




Thanks.

 

What is unique about this OP that it must be treated different than all others? However, you opened the door when you said something I agree with for a change!

I simply took the opportunity to remind you that:

By saying the following one more time!

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I have seen politicians from both parties do this...run for both the high profile post AND their incumbent post. Speaks a lot to me about 1. His commitment to the ticket and 2. His view of Romney's chances of actually winning. If he believes in the ticket, he should devote all energy toward that goal.

 

This is some pretty astute ponderin' Rog. It is entirely possible that he is being "Hillary'ed", you know. Being put somewhere where he will be seen, not heard.

I do know Ryan would destroy Biden in a debate. That will be fun to watch.

Also, isn't it funny to see Ann Rand so hated by the same folks who have no problem with Obama's continued corporate cronyism ?

 

Ryan would also destroy Obama in a debate on the economy.

 

Jesus taught voluntary, charitable giving. He never taught that a small group of elites (mob) need to hold a gun to people's heads and force them to give certain amounts to certain targeted people that the elite (mob) deem appropriate.

 

It does seem that many (most, all??:tongue3 liberals have no problem using selected scripture totally out of context when it suits their agenda, eh wot????:thumbsup:

Just one more example of telling us what God REALLY MEANT to say, rather than just accepting His word.:BangHead: