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Gail Riplinger's "New Age Bible Versions"

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by InTheLight, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. InTheLight

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    My wife has an NIV study Bible which she has brought to our IFB church on occasion. (I would categorize our church as KJV preferred.) One of the founding ladies of the church saw her using an NIV and felt compelled to educate my wife in why it was an inferior translation. She was given several of the usual KJV pamphlets lamenting the fact that the NIV is "missing verses" that are in the KJV. She was also given Gail Riplinger's book "New Age Bible Versions". I started to read it but had to put it down. It's filled with innuendo, illogical deductions and conclusions, and flat out misrepresentations (or if you like, lies.)

    For example, the author shows verses from the NASB and NIV side-by-side with the KJV and attempts to denigrate the modern versions by pointing out the missing text compared to the KJV. But on several occasions she misquotes the MV's. In other words, printed in her book are verses from the MV's that allegedly show missing words but if one took the trouble to consult the text of the NASB or NIV one would see the words are actually in there! I don't know what else to call this except misrepresentation.

    This is a pathetic book. She alleges that translator Dr. Westcott was a pagan and an occultist with no proof whatsoever. She has some bizarre notion of an acrostic code embedded in the MV's that "proves" they are of Satanic origin. Really, I was embarrassed to read this book and am disturbed that this may be the official stance of my church towards the MV's.

    So what should I do? I've already pointed out the flaws to my wife but this lady keeps asking her if she's read the book. I feel like giving this book back to this woman with a "thanks, but no thanks" and shrug my shoulders but I fear she may ask for an explanation. I really don't want to get into a discussion with her as it could lead to hurt feelings. Advice?
     
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    Give the book back to the woman with James White's King James Only Controversy. :D
     
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    It's regrettable this situation will probably only come to an ugly resolution. Not from your actions, but because she will not accept a contrary opinion no matter how graciously expressed.
     
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    Honesty is always the best policy. You do not need to intentionally hurt her feelings, but make no mistake, there likely will be hurt feelings regardless. You should check with the pastor and deacons to confirm the 'official' position of the church.

    BTW, in the past I've read and researched GAR's NABV (still have the book); I affirm that it is an embarrassment to genuine Christianity.
     
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    Looking at reviews on Amazon this book has some of the same allegations leveled against it as I had against Riplinger's book--appeal to emotion, innuendo, name-calling, etc.

    Is this a legitimately good book on the subject?
     
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    It is; I personally like White, but his book may not be the very best on this subject. I think I preferred D.A. Carson's King James Version Debate. Another I can vouch for is King James Onlyism which was more recently written (2006) by James D. Price.
     
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    Actually, I think he did a very good and honest job. There are times he must be a little harsh when it comes to the ridiculous claims Ms. Riplinger made but it's a very good book with a lot of great info, IMO.
     
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    I also can avouch for King James Onlyism by Dr. Price. A very scholarly work written by one of the men who was on the translation team for the NKJV. And also a great Bible college professor, by the way.
     
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    think the books by those 3 men listed, MR whire/Carson/price FAR superior to that new Age versions junk, as she just appealed to emotionalism and mis understanding/distortion!
     
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    You might try reasoning with this KJVO lady, in a Christian manner, remindingher that the current edition of the KJVO myth is derived from Dr. Ben Wilkinson's goof-filled 1930 book, Our Authorized Bible Vindicated, and that Dr. W was a 7TH DAY ADVENTIST official. Riplinger borrows some material from that book, as do virtually all KJVO authors.

    You might ask her to support KJVO with SCRIPTURE, and listen to her struggle! If she sez"Psalm 12:6-7, remind her that notion comes straight outta Dr. W's book, and besides that, where does it mention the KJV???????

    Bear in mind that Riplinger writes boox to MAKE A PROFIT, not from love of God's word. She has a degree in INTERIOR DESIGN, which hardly makes her a "Bible scholar". And her DELIBERATE misquotes of other authors in that book are legion.

    Sounds as if your wife's acquaintance is in thrall to that false, man-made doctrine, and needs to be helped out of it. The KJVO doctrine , IMO, is just another of the devil's attax upon God's word; he hopes to get people to doubt His word as presented in newer Bible versions, causing strife such as you fear may develop if you press the issue. But, better to cause some hard feelings than to allow a false doctrine to rear its ugly head uncontested.
     
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    There is a KJVO church very close to my home. I've attended services there many times. The first time I went there I had my NIV study Bible with me and was approached by some who had an attitude just like the OP. The assistant pastor also recommended the GR book to me, again just like in the OP.

    I cannot escape the feeling that the thinking there is that unless you think exactly the same as they do then you are not saved. They are in their view the only body of true believers in town. And yet as others have mentioned, the GR book is really in my opinion unchristian with respect to being an honest work.

    I don't feel that it is my mission in life to debunk the KJVO movement so I tend to stay away from debate with them but in truth I find it difficult to maintain total respect for their position. They are not going to read D.A. Carlson or James White because they think they are of the devil. They think I'm of the devil. The thing I find most frustrating about it is that I live in a rural area and have to travel many miles on Sunday. This place is a mile away but even wed night Bible study is out because they handle me like I'm some sort of heathen. The funny thing about it is that in reality, I know their theology better than they know their theology.
     
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