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Christmas and Halloween: More Similar than We May Believe?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    Christmas and Halloween: More Similar than We May Think?

    When I was the administrator of a Christian Pre-school through grade six, my son, who was in the Kindergarten class, waved his hand anxiously to get his teacher's attention when the class was asked if anyone knew what Halloween was all about...

    The teacher pulled me aside that afternoon, and shared with me that Paul [my son] stood up next to his desk and proudly told the her and his classmates that Halloween was the birthday of Satan! Of course, the classroom broke out in laughter, and after she calmed the giggling four and five years old back down, she asked him to explain how he came up with that theory.

    Paul looked at her and calmly stated, "If Christmas was the birthday of the Jesus, then Halloween had to be the devil's birthday!"

    I never forgot that, even though it was nearly forty years ago. For a five-year-old, I felt his response, and personal observation were quite in depth, and it always causes me to think of him when we get close to October 31st.

    * It should be noted that Paul ended his life in April 1999 after a long battle with drugs, alcohol and severe depression. He is truly missed!
     
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    Righteousdude2, thank you for sharing that with us.

    Paul's comments at 5, reminds me so much of what the scriptures have to say about little children. So many thoughts are tumbling around in my head right now. Protect the children. Become like little children. And what our pastor said recently, when he baptised an 8 year old. It went something like this: "She has a better understanding of our Lord, than many adults."

    I hope that Paul came to that kind of understanding while he was still a child. That even though he became entangled, then trapped, in things we can't understand, he knew our Saviour.

    Sometimes memories of holidays past can be bitter sweet. My mother's funeral was on Christmas eve. I'm thankful that your thoughts on October 31 return to a wonderful memory of your son. And, again, thank you for sharing it with us. Who knows, he may be right! Satan may have deceived mankind into recognizing his birth/creation, just as we celebrate the birth of our Saviour.
     
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    If anyone really believed in witches and ghosts and the monsters on TV, Halloween could be no fun at all. And the reason no one believes in them is because Christ has bound Satan.

    Because Satan is essentially a toothless lion, kids can have fun on Halloween.

    In that sense, Halloween is fun because of Christmas—well, really because of Easter, but we would have no Easter either but for Christmas
     
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    I wish this was true. The reality is many people do believe in ghosts and many claim to be witches and warlocks. These are people blinded by the god of this world. There are true monsters in this world and they work to do heinous things.

    Halloween is a chance for some people to make fun of ghosts and monsters and act scary. It is also a chance for many true monsters to be a bit more overt concerning their nature.


    If Satan is toothless then there would be no need for the warning that he is a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.
     
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    Aaron, I Know You Are Not a....

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    ...pentecostal, but your comments have that familair ring of Hagan, Hinn, and Duplantis.

    Of course, I know what you are saying, and I agree [in some respects], however, I couldn't help but comment on teachings I remembered from hearing these men speak, years ago about the bound devil and his toothless demeanor!

    Of course the comment following yours is where I view the devil. He is roaring about, looking for someone to devour, and that makes him more than a toothless thingofajog! :smilewinkgrin:

    And I do not meant to offend you, so please don't take it that way. I just had to chuckle as I read your words "Christ has bound Satan.....
    Because Satan is essentially a toothless lion..."

    Bless you my brother!
     
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    Thank you for sharing that story. I am deeply sorry about your son, but rejoice he is a Christian. When our kids were growing up, we kept Halloween pretty low key, unlike the stores who start promoting it two to three months early. We let them go trick or treating for a few hours and that was it.

    I do not know where all of the mythical creatures assoiciated with Halloween got started. I suppose a wild imagination. Zombies, vampires, werewolves, ghosts, witches, gargolyes, gremlins, and democrats (lol) make good movies, but are not real, and have no place in reality. I know a few who actually believe in ghosts. I ask them show me in Scripture that human spirits roam the earth, which they cannot. So one can only conclude if they were real, it would be some type of demonic mimicing. Ghost Hunters is entertaining, but not real. I have no idea where the recorded voices come from, but obviously a hoax.
     
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    I believe in them, too, but not in the traditional sense. The fact is that sorcery has been relegated to the fringe because of the Gospel and the authority that Christianity has in the world.

    That will change.

    And, just to preempt the typical rebuttals, I am Calvinist, Reformed and Amillennial.
     
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    Election Day is scarier than Halloween, holds more broken promises than Christmas, and delivers less joy then St. Nick.
     
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