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To Those Who Say People Voted for Obama Because they Want Freebies...

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Nov 9, 2012.

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  1. InTheLight

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    To those who say people voted for Obama because they want more freebies, could you please cite some proof of this? How about some exit polling questions/answers that support this view? How about some campaign ads by Obama promising more freebies? Excerpts from the debates? What do you got for proof?
     
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    If you already ignored the news reports of people wanting Obama money and free phones why should we indulge you with more evidence?

    To deny that this is what is happening is to deny human nature and the lessons of politics since the early 1900's.
     
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    That is one person that got an Obama phone. Judging by her demeanor and intelligence it would be safe to say that people like her are not the majority of voters.
     
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    Video is asking people about the debt deal, none are identified as Democrats or Obama voters. Then there is a clip from Judge Judy, not related to Obama or an election or voting. Then there is a staged segment about how much each taxpayer owes on the federal debt.

    That is one (ignorant) person that thinks Obama is going to buy the gas in her car and pay her mortgage. Please link to something that details Obama's plan to buy people gas and pay their mortgage.
     
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    A bunch of ignorant people are interviewed that thought the city government was giving away free "Obama money". So there are some people in this video that mistakenly thought Obama was going to give them something for free.
     
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    OK, those people in line at the welfare office are pathetic. But welfare is not a new thing, not an Obama created government program. Do you really think there are millions and millions of people just like them that voted for Obama?
     
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    My point is proven.
     
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    YouTube videos? (most of them sounding like a bunch of stereotypical parodies people went around collecting).
    I don't think that's seriously enough to base opinion on. And the one conclusion I see coming out of all this is an "us vs THEM" mentality. Even if you say "that's what they're doing"; by doing the same thing in return, you're just like them, and just as much apart of the problem.
     
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    ITL, this is not a new issue. The recent election is just the most recent example. Step back and think about it.

    Who are people going to vote for:
    A. Promises to expand social programs so more people are on the government roll
    B. Promises to revamp social programs so they are fiscally responsible and hold people accountable
     
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    You posted videos of several deluded individuals that thought Obama was giving something away. You did not show anyone being exit polled on election day saying they actually voted for Obama because he was going to give them something for free. You did not show any Democratic Party platform saying they were going to give free stuff away. You did not show any video clips of the debates showing Obama promising to give people free stuff.

    Obama won by about 3 million votes. Do you really think there are over 3 million people in this nation (that actually voted) that are the caliber of people in your YouTube videos?

    Exit poll data:

    Do you work full time for pay?
    Yes 60% (of these 49% were Obama voters, 49% were Romney voters)
    No 40% (of these 53% were Obama voters, 47% were Romney voters)
     
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    That is your standard. And I believe you created that standard to keep things as narrow as possible to create your own narrative. People talking on the street is more credible that any exit polling.

    That is right I did not. And for a couple reasons. First, I never claimed they did. And second it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I have shown common people on the street who voted for Obama have voted fro Obama because they believe they will get free stuff.

    Yes a great many of them in one form or another.
     
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    The government social services were expanded 80 years ago because the churches were not doing their job.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    No, because it was a power grab.
     
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    Boy are you gullible, there are hundreds, if not thousands of folks like this in every major city in America.

    I knew a fella that was working the system once, he got super low rent, free medical, food stamps, you name it. He used to come to my house in the morning and ask if I wanted to go fishing with him. I told him I had to work for a living, and he looked at me like I was from another planet.

    This guy lived in a nicer place than me, had better furniture, a huge wide screen TV, even a boat with outboard motor. He was in perfect physical condition except he was allergic to one thing, WORK.

    There are many thousands of folks like this, and they will ALWAYS vote for the Democrats. The Democrats know this, they are working the system too.
     
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    A college age kid who went to our church (and fell away as most youth do) had a girl post on his timeline she voted for free birth control and college loan forgiveness. Thats about as freebie as they come. She also had plenty of likes and "amens" to her comment.
     
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