Featured Would You Take the Mark of the Beast?

My personal belief-----excluding the rapture, as you mentioned above----is that this "mark" will come in a "stealthy" sort of way----perhaps as a "Pre" deception---upon the Earth's inhabitants

Probably about 99.99999% of all believers are ignorant of the "End Times"---rapture, resurrection of church--the deception and deceiving of THE antichrist---and thus would be deceived into TAKING the mark

Long story short---the way you have decribed the scenerio---taking a mark in any fashion would be akin to that person casting their total reliance upon the one who is in back of the concept

Refusing to take the "mark" would mean that I am casting my total self--my wants--my needs--my sustanence---my very self upon the Lord ---instead of me taking the MARK of man---I cast my care and burden upon the Lord Jesus---so therefore---I receive what Lord Jesus has to offer and give and not what the man behind the mark has to give.


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The Mark is not a literal mark. To receive the Mark of the Beast is to either consent to antichrist doctrines (receiving the mark on the forehead) or doing antichrist works whether or not one consents (receiving the mark on the hand).

 

Scripture Please...

Aaron,...I'm not saying you are right or wrong......but can you demonstrate what you just said from scripture? How can you be so sure it is NOT a literal mark of some kind? I believe most of this world will willingly accept this "mark" (whatever it is) as "business as usual" without much fanfare when the time for it's institution comes just like we accepted the advent of credit cards and debit cards. We see in our day how easy a thing deception is becoming. I have to believe that the Lord will not leave His true children defenseless to this deception. BUT....that said...since it is not yet here, how will we know and recognise what is going on? Your opinion?

Bro.Greg

 

was this mark visible to natural men?

Ezekiel 9 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

9 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.

2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.

3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The Lord hath forsaken the earth, and the Lord seeth not.

10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me

 

Dont have to worry about something that has already been done in the time frame of AD70 its over with Done !!!

 

Nope

The events of AD70 have no relevant modern Biblical prophetic significance and are not related to anything of a literal Biblical endtime nature in OUR current time-frame. It is not possible to demonstrate ANYTHING (in context & in the literal sense) in the Bible that teaches otherwise. Anybody that thinks that such a wild notion is possible can consider this an official CHALLENGE to show how this kind of strange doctrine is even remotely demonstratable from a literal and contextual Biblical point of view. The very nature of the world we NOW live in is a clear contradiction of this fantasy.

In my humble opinion!:saint: (Please NOTE: I pointed no fingers nor called any names!)

Bro.Greg

 

There is a school of thought that centers around 2 Thess. 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

thats says no Gentiles will be saved during this Great Tribulation because they will be made to believe the same lies that they do before the Great Tribulation.

In other words if they don't accept the truth now, then they are going to reject it the same way during the Great Tribulation. So if you go by that those people will accept the mark as they continue to reject Christ.

 

The scripture links receiving the mark of the beast to worship of the beast. So I believe it will be an identifiable mark and an identifiable act of worship. People will make a conscious choice, not be deceived into it.

There are plenty of context clues in the passage, and from the history of the time period, that point to the fact that taking the mark requires an awareness of what it is. The early Christians though the beast was Nero, in fact, the Latin vulgate translates the number to 616 from 666 because of numerology related to assigning mathematical values to the letters of his name and adding them up. So they interpreted the mark to be something they would know, and be able to make a choice.

 

If I can't answer with the truth, then I have nothing to say except good luck with that.

 

Don't know what its going to be, but I don't plan on being here when it is assigned.

 

True that! :thumbs:

 

Arno C. Gaebelein, a prominent dispensational writer early in the 20th Century makes as much sense as can be made about the Mark when he says [Gregg, Revelation, Four Views, page 306]:

Gaebelein goes on to say:

which makes sense to me!

How does that grab all?

 

I agree, but some would say everyone who has a SSN already has the mark. I think some have been watching too many SyFy movies.

 

If you have been saved and spiritually placed in Christ, why not take the mark of the Beast? It will be as if you did not take it.

So this act can only apply to the lost, unless you believe contrary to Baptist doctrine that a person can lose their salvation.

 

It is all symbolic folks, even dispensationalist Gaebelein made that clear.

That being said, the Church will still be here on earth until Jesus Christ returns, raises all the dead, saved and unsaved, and sits at the Great White Throne judgment. Then the New Heavens and New Earth where God will tabernacle with redeemed mankind, the Church!

 

Van, what would you say to those who would argue that a person who was really saved would not get the mark in the first place, as though it is a behavioral shibboleth?