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The Presidents message tonight at Newtown

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Alive in Christ, Dec 16, 2012.

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  1. Alive in Christ

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    I thought it was pretty good. I apreciated the scriptures that were quoted and the referances to God and Jesus. He was obviously sincere.

    A couple of things, though...

    I thought that he got a *little bit* political at one point,. wich is waaay out of place under these circumstances. (I was expecting him to say "it takes a village" at one point).

    Also,I coulnd help but feel that he was a bit of a hypocrit in this setting...considering that he actually condons killing children. (abortion, of course)
     
  2. righteousdude2

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    We May NOt Always Agree, AiC.....

    ...but you hit it out of the park on abortion. This president not only supports abortion; he supports partial-birth abortion. I know that many folks arround this country think America would be if his mother had had one or the other, so he needs to stop the hypocrisy and smell the gift of life.

    If he can condemn one thing, he has to condemn the other. Thanks for a great point!
     
  3. preachinjesus

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    It was an extraordinary speech by our President at a crucial moment for our nation. I was thankful for his poise and articulation of a reasonable plea for sanity.
     
  4. Scarlett O.

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    I thought he did a really good job.
     
  5. Alive in Christ

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    I do too.

    Outside of my 2 comments it was quite good.
     
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Agreed - I think he spoke like a parent, saying some of the things we all have felt the last few days.
     
  7. Crabtownboy

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    And you always talk about protecting the unborn, but you do not support programs to help infants in need after they are born. As you said you cannot condemn one thing without condemning the other. So when are you going to support programs feeding the malnourished children and supporting programs for improving the health of those who are living and in need?
     
  8. righteousdude2

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    What are you talking about????

    Where are you getting your information, CTB??? I am not against any programs for LEGAL American citizens. In fact, I was the Chairman of our county health departments childrens immunization program. As chairman I worked to get parents educated on the need to immunize their kids.

    I was also nominated Youth Advocate of the Year by the Riverside County Office of Education, and given a similar award from the Grand Island Board of Education.

    If you want to throw accusations in my direction brother, remember the mud can fly both ways.

    I have accomplished many things on behalf of legal immigrants and their children, including programs to assist them in better understanding and complying with the laws pertaining to their in home child care license.

    I don't have a black mark anywhere when it comes to helping infants in need after they are born.

    I assume your are eluding to my opposition to Affordable Care and amnesty.

    Again, I will do anything to help a fellow American. On the other hand, I will not lift a hand for those who have come here without following our laws.

    They are here illegally, and they need to sink, or swim, or return home. If that gets in your "craw" BTB, so be it. Just don't sling mud at someone who's done more in the last thirty years to promote infant, child and teen health and safety, then you could ever begin to imagine. I'm not a sloth, just an American who is fed up with people coming here illegally and wanting to be treated as though they are due it.


    Check your facts at the door, CTB, or you might embarrass yourself badly! :laugh: I guess you were trying to protect your guy in DC. I wouldn't expect anything different from you. However, when you get into that political spin node, which you are well known for, I will not take it.
     
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    It is obvious from your past posts that you are not pro-life for the living. You have railed against programs that help the poor, the infirm folk who are often in desperate need. Even your post here shows that you really do not like to help others, regardless of the front you put up.

    No where did Christ say, "Check the immigration papers." Look at the last judgment in Matthew. There are no qualification tests.

    "For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in."








    You sing the praises of the unborn, but you do not live that same philosophy, in your posts, for the living.
     
  10. Oldtimer

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    Sometimes it's still amazing in the way some Christians will judge, condem, and attack other Christians who don't agree with them. :tear:

    May God have mercy on us all.
     
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    I did not see the president's condolence speech. Perhaps I can find it later, but I am glad to hear it was a good speech. I cannot imagine what the parents of these small children are going through. I find it exceedingly painful just to think about the loss these people have suffered.

    Likewise for the friends, families, loved ones of the adults who were so senselessly struck down.

    We need to pray for all.
     
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    President Barack Obama used the Sunday evening memorial service for the murdered kindergartners and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School to launch a partisan campaign that could expand government intrusion into parenting and gun control.

    “[The] job of keeping our children safe, and teaching them well, is something we can only do together, with the help of friends and neighbors … and the help of a nation,” Obama said at the vigil, which held only a short distance from the Connecticut school where 20 children and six adults were murdered on Friday.

    “We will have to change. … If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief … then surely we have an obligation to try.”

    It is not clear if Obama actually will develop a national anti-violence crusade that would reshape families’ ability to raise their children. He may simply be using the Sandy Hook shooting to paint Democrats as defenders of the nation’s children from the GOP-backed gun industry.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/o...at-sandy-hook-victims-memorial/#ixzz2FIzMjAmC
     
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    I agree; he spoke about the things I have certainly felt. His remarks came from his heart.
     
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    I haven't watched any of the news about this.

    When the President came on television, I simply switched it off and was repulsed at the thought of someone inserting themselves into a tragic situation and not really meaning the prayer.

    For all I know, he could have meant it, but my gut tells me this isn't a man who believes in the true G-d. His actions show otherwise.

    I used to like him. Not for a President, but I still thought he was decent and respectable. It wasn't the end of my world when he was voted in the first time. The second time, I got nauseated.

    But maybe, just maybe, and I really hope it's the case, he truly meant it and we'll see a change of heart in our President and see him start showing evidence of true faith.
     
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    I watched it and I couldn't help but wonder what kind of response Obama would get if he made this same speech to all those mourning the deaths of their loved ones caused by his drone strikes and his proxy armies of Islamic extremist terrorists in Libya and Syria.

    This man and his policies are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people around the world. His mock concern for the lives of others that was on display last night for the whole world to see made me sick. I don't know what the rest of you were watching last night but I was watching total hypocrisy to tenth power.

    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Last April, in response to modest but growing public outrage over the Obama Regime’s use of killer drones, Brennan gave an opaque and self-congratulatory speech insisting that the program was legal because those who preside over it consider it to be. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Killing distant, unarmed people by way of robot-delivered missiles is "legal, ethical, and wise," he declared. The targeted execution of individuals deemed to be terrorists –without the benefit of trial or any simulacrum of due process – is the result of careful "deliberation," and conducted in a way that discriminates between combatants and bystanders.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]This must mean that Barack Obama and the people who are sufficiently foolish and depraved to obey his orders intended to kill 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki while he was enjoying a backyard barbecue at the home of a family friend in Yemen. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
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    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Regime has never explained why it murdered that child, let alone apologized to the family for doing so. The closest it has come to an explanation was offered last September by former White House spokesliar (and campaign functionary) Robert Gibbs, who actually claimed that the teenager’s death was his own fault because he had somehow made a poor choice of fathers: "I would suggest that you should have a far more responsible father if they’re truly concerned about the well-being of their children."[/FONT]

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    In the light of "Fast and Furious" under his administration, where untold numbers of Mexicans were killed with assault weapons, and in the light of his stance on abortion, it was quite surreal. Other than the political moments, there were parts of it that were pretty good, but still, it was surreal.
     
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    By definition in CBT's world if you are against the slaughter of the unborn you favor letting children starve to death. As is the case with all like CTB they cannot comprehend those who are pro-life. And that is a fact.
     
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    Obama epitomized the hypocrisy of the radical left. I do not watch this man spout off his senseless platitudes because they are just that, nothing more. A person that supports and condones the slaughter of the unborn is one sin sick person in my opinion! He has nothing to say that I want to hear!
     
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    And Billy Clinton could cry out of one eye but still twice vetoed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban.
     
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