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The Fate Of The Republic Is In The Hands Of One Man

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by pinoybaptist, Jan 6, 2013.

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  1. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
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    article by:

    ALAN P. HALBERT
    JANUARY 6, 2013

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-fate-of-the-republic-is-in-the-hands-of-one-man/

    from the article

    Fraudulent birth certificate ?
    says who ?
    I am not pro-Obama, far from it, but has a court of law declared the certificate a fraud ?

    Bigamy is a fraudulent act, but PROOF must be given and a court of law declare the bigamous marriage null and void before anything else, if I understand the law correctly.

    The problem is that NO ONE opposed Obama in court, unless I missed it. Not the Republicans, not the tea party, not a private citizen, not the US Bar, not any state bar. NO ONE SET THE MACHINERY IN MOTION.

    All these statements that Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen is repeated and believed in only in patriots' circles and opposition circles.

    Go to court and prove it in court.
    But no one has done that, so Obama is laughing all the way to the bank.

    And Chief Justice Roberts will swear that wimp of a fraud in, he had no problem with betraying the trust of people already with Obamacare and laughing and saying "hey, you voted him in, now suck it in", why should he have a problem swearing Obama in.
     
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  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    As the law now stands anyone born in the US is a natural born citizen. The nationality of their parents means nothing in that case.
     
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  3. mont974x4

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    The OP seems to forget that many people have filed lawsuits, this engaging the machine. The problem is Obama and his handlers crushed all opposition in drawn out legal battles.

    If Obama is legit then why did he fight so hard? Why did he not prove it right off the bat?


    And still, it matters not. God put him in office and nobody is going to undo that.
     
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    Because this is such a silly notion it was not worth responding to until so many nut jobs got involved that it was becoming distracting for the country. I don't think he ever should have responded to this lunacy.

    Pres Obama has many, many issues that are disconcerting - one of them is not his natural born citizenship.
     
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    nevermind...<edited - LE>it's not worth it
     
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    There have been dozens of frivolous lawsuits at every level and each one has been rightly knocked aside.
     
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    Because the President should not respond to every crazy that has some delusional conspiracy. That alone would be a full time job. Besides, he has given proof, yet those lunatics will not accept any proof, even if they were to go back in a time machine and witness the birth themselves.

    Actually the popular vote of American citizens and the Electoral College put him in office.
     
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  8. pinoybaptist

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    okay, so I missed those.
    wasn't paying attention because up until Benghazi AND the guns issue I really didn't care about politics.
     
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    If they were frivolous why did Obama stonewall? All he did was feed the birther movement by not being open from the get go.


    I understand you liberals don't care.
     
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    There is a preponderance of lack of preponderaance.

    The real conspiracy is Satan trying to be God. Satan has a lot of people duped.

    God allows the Antichrist to come on the scene--whoever that may be.

    The Antichrist has already been defeated--at Calvary.

    Even so, come Lord Jesus.

    Peace,

    Bro. James
     
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    When will this birther nonsense end?
     
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    2016... maybe.
     
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    Let’s cut through all the opinion and speculation, all the “he says”, “she says”, fluff, and go right to the irrefutable, constitutional authority on all terms and phrases mentioned in the U.S. Constitution: the Supreme Court of the United States.

    First, let me note that there are 4 such cases which speak of the notion of “natural born citizenship”.

    Each of these cases will cite or apply the definition of this term, as given in a book entitled, The Law of Nations, written by Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss-German philosopher of law. In that book, the following definition of a “natural born citizen” appears, in Book I, Chapter 19, § 212, of the English translation of 1797 (p. 110):

    Book I, Chapter 19 section 212. . . "citizens and natives."

    CONTINUE . . .

    Marbury vs Madison 1803. “A law repugnant to the Constitution is void.”
     
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