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al Jazeera: A two Faced Monster?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    The information on al Jazeera is plentiful, so please take your pick and draw your own conclusions as to the true al Jazeera. For me, it seems to have a deep hidden agenda. More like the Trojan Horse Syndrome. However, only time will tell if Gore's sold out, or did America a favor with is the decision to sell Current TV to the Qatar network that is under lots of suspicions.

    Like I said before. We are at war with an enemy that plays a good game of duck and cover. No one knows who they are as well as where they are. With this in mind, Current TV's sale should have been stopped just like the potential sale of US ports to United Arab Emirates and Dubai [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy]. let's not forget that Congress was vehemently opposed this sale in 2006, probably because President Bush was behind, and supportive of, the sale. So where was Congress on this sale of media television to a network that has a two-faced approach to terrorism??? :tear:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Iraq_War

    http://www.meforum.org/3147/al-jazeera

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera

    And for those who wanted some video proof of al Jazeera: http://www.stopaljazeera.org/
     
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    From his global warming scam to al jazeera, Al gore is all about money and hypocrisy.

    Always has been.

    We were so, so fortunate he was not elected president. :applause:
     
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    Yes....

    ....thank God for hanging chads! :laugh:
     
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    If in the west freedom and democracy hold the truth, why do we fear another point of view.

    Censoring the media because we don't like what they say seems abhorrent to all that the Constitution stands for.

    Let them broadcast - isn't truth stronger than error?

    Maybe next we can arrange so that only Fox is allowed to broadcast the news?
     
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    :laugh:

    Yeah. I used to read Pravda.

    Really Got the straight scoop there.:laugh:
     
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    I agree. We see the impact that Pravda had. If the right is right we have no more to fear from AJ than Pravda so let them broadcast.
     
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    Refresh my memory.

    I don't recall the Soviet Union having a broadcast network here.

    Nor nazi Germany, come to think of it. North Korea? North Vietnam? Red China?

    So tell me, just how many of our past enemes have we allowed to freely broadcast "news" on our TV networks??
     
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    Apparently people had access to it as you mentioned that you read it. Truth won out.

    Is truth not strong enough to deal with error? Al Jazeera is the media outlet of Qatar, one of the US's strongest allies in the region.

    What is there to fear from error and misleading information? How strong will the viewership be? If it won't turn a profit it won't last long because no cable systems will carry it.

    Let freedom rule here and let the American people decide on whether AJAmerica survives or not.

    Why are people afraid of a free media?

    Beside, in this media age anyone who wants to see it can easily view it online. Should that be blocked in the US as well.
     
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    Very well said, Roger. Truth is strong enough to win in a marketplace of ideas. If it requires government protection, it is likely not truth at all. It becomes government propoganda.
     
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    What do you think about Fox News' owner Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Nice dodge.

    But...

    Being intellectually dishonest doesn't become you.

    What were the names of their American networks?
     
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    We both know that was a different era, limited cable, no internet, and three networks to choose from.

    You said you used to read Pravda. That was a newspaper. Fair enough, but Pravda's lies were not enough to defeat truth and now it is a meaningless tabloid.

    What do Americans have to fear from an open media?

    Why ban opposing viewpoints in a nation which prides itself on a free media?

    AJAmerica will have to go the way of Pravda to draw American news followers who thrive on sensationalism.
     
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    So you're saying we didn't used to let our enemies have free access to our airwaves, but we should now.

    You're also saying it had more to do with technology than anything else. Yet you fail to mention widespread use of radio. :smilewinkgrin: It couldn't have had anything to do with national security or just plain old good sense.:rolleyes:

    Allright, Roger. I'll let you off the hook. It's apparent you have no reason to back an aj network in the states other than you just like to examinine the propaganda of our enemies and believe we should make it convenient for everyone to do so. You're also encouraging government to give free media access to an aj network that will spin the information they gather, and spread it in the ME to keep muslims agitated. Makes sense to me.:BangHead:

    Now for the truth about use of the airwaves by our enemies...if you're interested.

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19376529509361979#preview

    The U.S. Government's role as overseer of the World War II airwaves was significant, given the government's task of establishing a supervisory mechanism for the radio industry that would serve the need of national security and, at the same time, minimize the need for bureaucratic intrusion into program decision making. A mechanism also was needed to police the domestic airwaves for unlicensed intruders and to monitor the international airwaves for enemy propaganda. To accomplish these tasks, the government enlisted the services of three agencies: the Federal Communications Commission, the Defense Communications Board, and the Office of Censorship. This paper examines the structure, operation, and contribution of each.
     
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    Sure, and in the late 18th century we had the Alien and Sedition Acts.

    The question remains, why is media freedom to be feared?

    Another question, should Internet access to Al Jazeera be blocked in the US?

    Maybe we need to have an 'Media Free America' so that Americans can access all the news instead of just what passes Tea Party approval.

    Keep the airwaves and Internet free. What do we have to fear?
     
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    :laugh: Having a difficult time with the facts, I see.

    And definitely not interested in historical verification of your lame excuse for why we should give free access of our airwaves to our enemies. Different times, indeed.:rolleyes:

    I tell you what. You be an aj fan.

    And I won't.

    I'm curious about one thing though...Have you renounced your American citizenship yet?

    PS Your obsession with the Tea party is entertaining. Put a slur in every post. I need the entertainment.
     
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    Interesting, then why are liberals trying to shut Limbaugh down with "fairness" laws? Why can't liberal talk radio programs last? Why do we need to use the force of government making radio networks give equal time to both liberal and conservative talk shows?
     
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    Just more liberal hypocrisy.

    Next he'll propose barring the Tea Party from use of the airwaves.
     
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    You certainly won't here me trying to shut up Limbaugh.

    Just like al Jazeera America, no matter how onerous the views expressed they have the right to be expressed.

    I don't know why First Amendment rights are under such fire from either side of this debate. As a US citizen I hold all of those rights dear.

    Why are so many so afraid of AJAmerica? Why do people fear a free press? Is their fear that error may win out over truth?
     
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    Did error win out over truth when Jesus was put on trial and crucified?

    Did error win out over truth when an American pastor was sentenced to death in Iran?

    Did error win out over truth when a family was just sentenced to 15 years in prison for converting to Islam?

    Did error win out over truth when Hitler became leader over Germany?
     
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    So, we should overlook lying propaganda now because it was overlooked in the past and "hey, the good guys won anyways, right?"

    Ugh.



    Recognizing someone elses 1st Amendment rights does not require that we set aside ours. It is my opinion that during a time of war you do not allow the enemy free access to spread its propaganda among your own populace. To do so is to aid the enemy. Again, that is my opinion and I don't expect the liberals on BB to see it that way. That's OK.
     
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