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Obama's Speech Should Kill Notion Held By the Press That He's a Centrist

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Revmitchell

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    BRIT HUME: President Obama today gave the country a clarifying moment. We may not have gotten to know Mr. Obama, the man, better today, but we certainly got to know him the politician better. His inaugural speech should put to rest for all time the notion much favored by his admirers in the press that he is a centrist. He is not. He looked out to his west today across a country still suffering the after effects of a severe recession and said only that a recovery had begun. And his prescription for accelerating that anemic recovery? None was heard.

    He barely mentioned the national debt up about 60 percent since he took office, and then only as a prelude to defending the three great drivers of that debt: Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. He did call it quote “fiction” that all societies' ills could be cured through government alone, but that was just a prelude to wonders of collective action by which he unmistakably meant government action on gay rights, climate change, voter suppression, immigration reform, and obliquely gun control. Only by saying he would support the spread of democracy worldwide, which is the George W. Bush freedom agenda, and by failing to swear off the use of drone attacks did he say anything likely to disappoint the base on the left.

    The president clearly is a man of the left, and after today, his few departures from its orthodoxy should fool no one.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...tion-held-his-admirers-press-he#ixzz2IfDfeQXY
     
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    Anyone that has ever thought he was anything but a far left radical is, and has been, a fool ...for at least the past 4 years.
     
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    And unfortunetly----for the NEXT 4 years!!!
     
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    Thanks for your Obama hating right-wing drivel. Twas a good speech, very patriotic and he invoked God a number of times

    and never said Allah nor Koran.

    In seriousness I see nothing wrong in pointing out what being a good citizen is all about ... and it is not about being self-centered and selfish. I see nothing wrong in having goals of:

    giving more Americans the tools they need to work their way into the middle class and caring for those who can't care for themselves.

    And he did stay in the center emphasizing the:


     
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    Interesting strory. The Irish media reported this story today, praising the president for his 'progressive and liberal' agenda for his second term.
     
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    That's the problem...

    ...with the Europeon press. They can't seem to catch the real drift of what's going on in America. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    BTW - Was that media source in Ireland a pro-IRA group, or ?????
     
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    My point was that TV3 (the independent tv channel) seems to agree with the assessment posted here.

    You may want to take a refresher course in modern Irish history. The IRA has basically been a non- story since 1998 and the Good Friday Agreement.
     
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    Why are you anti giving more Americans the tools they need to work their way into the middle class and caring for those who can't care for themselves.

    Seems like pretty good ideas to me. Obama centered on being a good citizen, helping each other, making a better future for our children.

    Why are you against these ideas? Seem sensible and Christian to me.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    Why are you anti the founding of this country? Why are you against personal responsibility? Why are you against true freedom?

    Why do you support oppression through taxation? Why do you support oppression in the false name of safety?

    Why do you support a President that cares more about the green agenda than jobs the national debt and the economy?

    Your view may "seem" Christian but my views are Christian.
     
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    The founding of the country was based on a system of giving people opportunities to advance and to be free. Why do you want to inhibit people from advancing?

    Why do you oppose giving people who are poor and in the middle class help while wanting the rich to take away the little the poor and middle class have?



    Why do you support a President that cares more about the green agenda than jobs the national debt and the economy?


    Why do you support those who believe in raping the earth to enrich themselves violating the command of God to care for the earth?

    How can they be Christian when the harm people? Where does Christ teach:

    1. We are not to help others?
    2. We are to hoard what we have?
    3. We are to keep the downtrodden down?

    Now, I answered your questions. Please answer mine.

    Why are you anti giving more Americans the tools they need to work their way into the middle class and caring for those who can't care for themselves?

    Seems like pretty good ideas to me. Obama centered on being a good citizen, helping each other, making a better future for our children.

    Why are you against these ideas? Seem sensible and Christian to me.

    Why are you against helping others?

     
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    You failed to answer mine and I never intended to answer yours as they are themselves strawmen. I see you have taken cues from your messiah Obama.

    Now if you had asked "why are you against using the force of government to accomplish these goals?" I could very easily answer those questions. But you knew that. The absence of that caveat is less than honest.
     
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    Untrue.

    I was sure that was true when I answered your questions. You seem incapable of answering questions with thoughtful answer. Attempted insults and evasive one lines is your modi operandi.

    Are you saying you believe in the government using force against people to carry out policy?

    Caveat means, a modifying or cautionary detail to be considered when evaluating, interpreting, or doing something.

    Why don't you try it sometime? You have hoisted yourself hoist on your own petard. That is quite humorous.
     
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    Such blatant ignorance is astounding! :laugh: :laugh:
     
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    Thanks for the proof my statement is true.
     
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    I have been saying Obama is a Marxist since he started running for president. The press is not for Obama because they thought he was a centrist; the press is for Obama because he is a Marxist!
     
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    The government has nothing to give unless they take it from someone else. And that is a fact.

    Yes Obama loves the little children. He wanted to deny medical treatment to newborn babies, he zaps them with drones indiscriminately. He really cares for the little children.

    The democrats started that "little children" crap under FDR and have kept it up since. Yet their platform supports the slaughter of unborn children, their convention celebrated that fact. If it were not for the democrats the Roe v Wade decision could have been annulled.

    YES. Obama and the democrat party epitomize all that it means to be a Christian. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    This country was based on the freedom of the individual and against oppressive government such as that pushed by the Marxist/democrats.

    It is the Marxist/democrats who want to keep people from advancing. You know "the dictatorship of the proletariat".



    I don't believe any political conservative on this board wants the rich to take from the poor. Neither do they want the federal government to TAKE so much from anyone.



    that is a strange question coming from you CTB!


    Raping the earth, raping the earth you say CTB. All the perverts are in the democrat party!



    It is a proven fact that liberals give far less to church and charity than conservatives do. How much did Biden give? Was it just $3?
    Matthew 7:3. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    This coming from one who supports the man and party that celebrates the slaughter of the unborn. Very sad CTB!

    I have asked that question many times of "professing Christians" since 1973 and on this board since 2004 and have yet to get an answer. How can one who professed to be saved by Jesus Christ support and condone the slaughter of unborn children; over 50 million since 1973.

    Sounds good. The only problem the government can;t give unless it first takes!

    You left out: Creating a police state!

    Where does Jesus Christ support theft by taking?
     
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    The same garbage that's been being said since FDR. It is nothing more than people patting themselves on the back for demanding others give more.

    C.T.Boy, doesn't the government have enough ? How come you are so bent on them getting more ? Remember when you said you were against the Patriot Act, and the Wars, the T.S.A. ? Why don't you demand an end to these programs so these funds can be better used here at home ? Why are you so much more comfortable with Obama's imperialism, then Bush's ?
     
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    Simple! CTB is a leftist and Obama, aka Darth Vadar, is a radical leftist. Darth Vadar thinks the slaughter of the unborn is great and CTB thinks there are more important issues!
     
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