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Some Say Obama Is a Marxist. Is he?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    There are some on the board who continually say Obama is a Marxist. Below are the tenets of Communism. I would like for those who continually say this to explain which of the following tenets he has or is pushing for that was not already in place when he entered office:

     
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    Like I thought. Refuse to answer which tenets he is pushing for that were not already in place.

    Also, you did not answer my question. Are you in favor of blowing their cover and putting their lives and the lives of their families in danger?
     
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    I can't believe that you are posting this, CBT. Let us look at the history of Obama. His grandfather was involved with the Mau Mau. His father was a socialist who was fired from his government post for opposing the free-market government. His maternal grandparents were well-known leftists, perhaps fellow travelers. His mother was a supporter of the Sukarno dictatorship who divorced his step-father due to her opposition of a free government in Indonesia.

    His mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, a card-carrying communist with roots in Chicago where he dealt with the families who are Obama's principal supporters from Chicago, where they live in the leftist Hyde Park, a silk stocking enclave in the squalor of Chicago, a city on the edge of becoming another Detroit. When he got to Occident University, he told a Marxist group that he was a Marxist.

    As president, he took control of the banking system with a massive unnecessary bailout in a statist attempt to dictate their recovery from Barney Frank's forcing them to give mortgages out like candy at a teller's cage. He did the same thing to the auto industry, refusing to allow them to pay off their loans and set their own course.

    Without legislative approval, he has declared that September 20, he will forbid the use of coal for the production of electricity without massive unnecessary expense. He has forbid the drilling of oil in the Gulf of Mexico and on all federal lands, causing the doubling of gasoline prices. He has refused to build a pipeline to buy Canada's oil as a sop to Warren Buffett's railroads. He has refused to allow the construction of new refineries. He squandered billions on worthless watermelon schemes--green on the outside and red on the inside.

    He has promoted same-sex marriage to destroy the social fabric of society as did Russia under Stalin where marriage was almost non-existent.

    He has destroyed the best healthcare system in the history of the world in order to dictate to the American people what their doctors can and cannot do.

    He has advocated infanticide, and set up death panels to begin euthanasia.

    His tax policies are designed to destroy private property. We have the highest corporate tax in the world, allowed by DC in order to smoother the economy and cause massive unemployment with no hope in sight.

    He has withdrawn protection from our troops overseas in order to bleed them and thereby increase his power. This is shown in Libya, the loss of Iraq and the collapse of Afghanistan.

    The education is heavily controlled by the Democrats and it is at the bottom of the free world in achievement and at the top in expense, most of it going to Democrat Party members.

    He has used the IRS illegally to harasses the political opposition.

    He has used the NSA to track the electronic activities of every single American.

    He has shown ill temper whenever anyone in the press had even the slightest criticism of him, a la Hugo Chavez, and he has illegally attempted to prosecute James Rosen of Fox News.

    Food prices have been kept artificially high by the burning of massive amounts of corn in the wasteful and environmentally and mechanically unsound production of ethanol to assist the Democrat bloc voters of farmers, who now are some of the richest people in the country.

    HIs planning is not regional, it is national.

    He has destroyed American respect overseas as evidenced by the flop of his recent grandiose speech in Berlin that attracted only a handful of street people or transients.

    He has given us the longest and deepest recession since the Great Depression. He has allowed the Fed to print money by the tons in order to fund a massive debt and to prop us the unemployed so that the Democrats will not have to cut taxes and allow the economy to grow. Federal employee are now some of the highest paid people in the world and yet it is hard to think of one good thing that federal workers do.

    He has consistently attacked the free expression of religion, trying to set aside the traditional freedoms given to Catholic institutions as well as trying to denigrate the freedoms and activities of Protestants. Clearly, Obama has no higher power, an earmark of a communist.

    David Horowitz of Front Page Magazine has called Obama a neo-Communists. We have to reject your criteria, CBT, for what a communist does but Obama likes to pretend that he is for freedom but his actions speak louder than his words. He is constantly campaigning for gun control and told at least one fellow professor at the University of Chicago that he opposed the Bill of Rights on the private ownership of guns. On that point Obama is like the Germans who abolished private ownership of guns before World War II.

    But here is part of what Horowitz said of today's Democrats:

     
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    Obama is a NWO authoritarian control freak puppet of the global banking and corporate elite.

    He and his faithfull followers are not liberals. Thomas Jefferson was a liberal. Obama and his followers are authoritarian control freaks that think government is god. Liberals they are not.
     
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    He ain't the first Commie to enter Washington. Duh.
     
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    The Tea party was co-opted by Michelle Bachmann, and they tell us they are still conservative.

    So it's only right that the authoritarians co-opt the term "liberal". And you are quite correct, Jefferson was a classic liberal.
     
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    "was not already in place when he entered office" - interesting choice of words. Almost made me decide not to respond; and then I thought, well, that particular choice of wording is kind of like asking "when did you stop beating your wife?" You see, if Obama has perpetuated those policies, then the charge against him being a Marxist is valid. If he's made any progress towards stopping or prohibiting those policies, then the charge is invalid.

    So which of those policies has he spoken out or taken action against?
     
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    He thinks he is slick and no one sees what he is doing. Like most liberals he sets up his own standard to meet so he can make his claim be true.
     
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    Most of it was already in place before Obama stepped into the WH and he promised us we could change all that . . . "yes we can". Remember all that Crabby? Isn't that why you supported him? Guess what, you was neoconned!

    Why would you continue to support someone that lied to your face and stabbed you in the back?
     
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    Crabby joined the BB when Obama took office and is here only to propagate Leftist ideology any way he can. He's one of those who have been recruited to join conservative-leaning fora and belch leftist subterfuge.

    He wasn't stabbed. He's one holding the knife.
     
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    He's certainly not here for discussion.
     
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    Some people really think slavery is freedom. What they don't seem to understand is that putting their heads down and going along with an evil system doesn't give them any immunity from the evil. Pretending all is well when it clearly is not is madness imho.

    I agree with Ed. Obama is definately a corporatist puppet of the global banking and corporate elite. Marxism and socialism are tools the elite use to control and manage populations. Same as fear, intimidation, false patriotism and ridicule are tools of control.

    Obama is a brand that was created by the corporate elite and sold to us through the corporate media no different than a Big Mac or Ford truck. He's a product not the producer. He's a focal point put out there to distract us from the truth.

    Our Republic has been overthrown by a global financier oligarchy that Obama is subservient to.
     
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    There is much more to it than that.
     
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    Well of course there is.
     
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    I have made a clear case showing he is. To include people he surounds himself with, people who mentored him, and his agenda. Trying to determine if he is or not simply by what he has been able to accomplish thus far will not be sufficient but it is part of the bigger picture.
     
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