Featured Should Christians Judge Outside the Church?

But then again, Paul says in Ephesians 5:

11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, 14 for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says,

“Awake, O sleeper,
and arise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”


I'm all for a balanced view of judgment. Certainly our focus should be inside the church, but not at the expense of ignoring our culture.

 

No further comment is necessary.

 

Zaac,

You expose yourself here as to why you have some erroneous views. You incessantly point the finger at brothers and at the same time excuse the lost world.

Were those who were preached to in Acts at Pentecost lost or saved? They were lost, and they were condemned for their sins. There is more Scripture that points to this fact and that doing so is not incorrect as you assert.

Be consistent and lose your hobby horse of finger pointing at brothers and defending and excusing the wickedness practiced by the lost.

In other words be Biblical.

 

Some people forget what this country was founded on. It was in fact, along with biblical principles, founded on the freedom to to speak out against or for our leaders. We as citizens of the United States of America have a duty to speak out and to be part of the ongoing culture and political landscape.

As Christians we are to be a part of our communities. We need to be presidents, congressman, senators, counselman etc. And we need to be influential in speaking out.

While there are some who want to set up strawmen and try to paint a false choice between being a witness to the gospel or speaking out as a citizen the fact is that is a false choice. It is not an either or.

We should in fact speak out in our public meetings, in our newscasts, in our newspapers, and on this board. I can assure you that will not change.

 

oh, come on, zaac....
spoilsport, killjoy, wet blanket.
we're all having fun pointing at everybody else but ourselves and all, and you have to come and throw water on our zeal ?
come on, man.
whas' ma'r wif ya?

 

A church that is not preaching the Gospel and feeding the sheep has problems at home that need to be addressed first. A church that is doing those things should be carrying the Gospel into the public square. Since the Gospel of Jesus Christ is a "stumbling stone and a rock of offense" it will be rejected by most. Sparks will fly.

One of the reasons why the Church should be calling on the world to repent is because Jesus is not just king over the Church. Jesus is King over all.

 

zaac:

Just for the record, man.
we've had our problems, you and I, and we'll probably keep having issues down the road, but, as far as you are at in this thread, I'm with you, okay ?
I hear ya.

 

paul spoke A LOT about the problem of Homosexuality in and out of the Body, the prophets spoke a GREAT deal about how political leadership was NOT obeying God, how they claimed to be for Him, yet denied him by their actions!

Were they all wrong?

PS...

God had the false prophets of baal killed off, had effeminates judged, had bad political leadership condemned and judged, wow, He must not have gotten your 'revealtion" about doing that stuff!

 

You've defended gays and the president time and again whilst pointing your finger at others incessantly, and in so doing have excused yourself from doing to others what you claim they are doing.

Several have called you on this.

Perhaps take that youtube and place one eye on it and see your own 'lower intestine' with the other since your cranium is firmly planted there. :thumbs: