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Biggest Scandal of 2013

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, Dec 26, 2013.

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What is Biggest Scandal of 2013

Poll closed Jan 5, 2014.
  1. Inauguration of Obama

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Obama Lies About Keeping Your Health Care

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  3. NSA Spying

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  4. Snowden's Treasonous Activity

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. IRS Targeting Conservatives

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  6. Terrorist Bombing in Boston

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  7. Government Shutdown

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  8. Obamacare

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  9. Harry Reid

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  10. Senate Adopting "Nuclear Option"

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    What do you believe was the biggest scandal in 2013. Vote in the poll and post your justification or if you have a different scandal then have at it!
     
  2. SolaSaint

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    There are too many to choose from. I want to say Benghazi, but Obamacare has to be #1.
     
  3. OldRegular

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    There were far too many scandals. i suppose I could have listed more but 10 is the limit. I wanted to include Benghazi but it happened in 2012. However, the scandal still exists and will until the Republicans take control of both Houses of Congress.
     
  4. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Thats simply an outrage ...one that I hope the American people remember come election time.
     
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    The bold faced lies about health care. It, IMNSHO, destroyed any credibility or trust the president might have had.
     
  6. Aaron

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    Yeah. His loss of credibility. What a disaster. :rolls eyes:

    What the dems have done to this nation through the exploitation of his race is just peanuts in comparison.

    Glad to see you're looking at things right.:jesus:
     
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    I selected the ACA, otherwise known by the Great Pretender's name, his lies about it, the NSA, the IRS, and the nuke option in Harry Reid's Senate, but I don't believe any of those are truly the biggest scandal.

    What I find to be scandalous is the apparent inattention or care for U.S. involvement in the world. We have abandoned our world leadership in favor of an erratic, "lead from behind" (whatever that means) mentality that has the rest of the world scratching its collective head and wondering where our leadership has gone. As examples of this, I give you:
    • This man apparently believes that "getting bin Laden" decapitated al-Qaeda, utterly failing to understand that the terrorist group is a multi-headed monster, each group being able to act independently of leadership while still sharing the overall ideal and goals of the group's founder, now shark food in the Indian Ocean.
    • In the Syrian conflict, he has set "red line" upon "red line" and done nothing when Assad has crossed them. He repeatedly has backed off of threats to use force, which of course leaves our enemies believing -- quite rightly, in all likelihood -- that he never will. For an overview of the utter farce his so-called Mideast policy is, read here.
    • With China, the Great Pretender has chosen kindergarten diplomacy over flexing U.S. muscle. When China declared an East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone in November, rather than address Xi Jinping directly in what should have been a crucial, high-level and public demand the zone not be enforced, he chose to be like the kid on the playground who crosses the line drawn in the sand, by flying planes and sailing ships through the zone.
    • He has ceded defense of North Africa to the French. The French!! When Mali was threatened by al-Qaeda fighters, the Great Pretender made all sorts of bluster and promise -- much as he did with Syria -- before simply letting enough time go by that the French decided if anything was going to be done, they would have to do it. So they did.
    • With the NSA revelations regarding our nation's spying on French, German, Brazilian and other allied leaders, our credibility is shot as a friend that can be trusted.
    These are just a few examples of the scandal that is -- or rather, isn't -- U.S. foreign policy. I say "isn't" because we have none, other than our ignoble traitor in the White House reacting to international issues and events when they are significant enough to distract him from his attempt to implement socialism in this country.

    Wall Street Journal op-ed writer Walter Russell Mead wrote recently:
    Obama’s disappointing foreign policy would be less disappointing if the Obama administration’s rhetoric were not so far removed from reality. Having held office for nearly five years, Obama still doesn’t seemed to have grasped the importance of connecting proclamations and speeches with actual policies which can be acted upon. It's a scandal that dwarfs all the other issues facing us today, even the unmitigated disaster of a "healthcare law" bearing the idiot's name.
     
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  8. OldRegular

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    Excellent post TND. Frankly I did not even think about Obama's disastrous foreign policy. It all began with his apology tour and has been down hill ever since. I honestly believe that it is Obama's purpose to destroy the country as the world leader. I am not as concerned about being world leader as being the strongest nation in the world both economically and militarily. He is weakening us on all fronts and we are much more vulnerable to China that before he took office.
     
  9. OldRegular

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    And Hillary's "What difference does it make" tirade before the Senate.
     
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    Thanks, OR. :thumbsup:

    I even forgot to mention Iran, which was virtually falling to its knees ready to do anything to get the sanctions from the international community lifted. That was before the Ignoble Traitor sent over that treacherous collaborator, John "Swift Boat" Kerry, to further undermine U.S. world leadership. He literally lifted Iran to its feet and gave them hope they could still get their nuclear weapon by "negotiating" an agreement that holds Iran to no requirements while leaving them free to continue to building centrifuges. By "negotiating," I believe I mean, essentially, that he asked them what they wanted and he gave it to them!!

    And by the way, we have a Secretary of State who likely lied about a third combat injury in order to get a third Purple Heart which let him leave the Vietnam theater of operations immediately, only to show up at the Paris Peace talks and meet with the North Vietnamese delegation only 18 months after he fled the "brown water Navy" where he was fighting the very people he then embraced!! This is our Secretary of State!! Doesn't anyone else find this utterly obscene and traitorous?? Or is it just this old rotary wing pilot thinking men who have served this country ought to honor her, not undermine her?
     
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  11. OldRegular

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    Obama said that elections have consequences and we are seeing the truth of that statement. I believe that if the country does not do an about face beginning with the 2014 elections the race to oblivion for this Republic will continue.

    Obama would have to look far to find a worse Secretary of State than Kerry [possibly Hillary light] but since he was a Senator his confirmation by the Senate was a given.
     
  12. poncho

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    I believe the biggest scandal of 2013 is how American Christians have remained relatively silent while our brothers and sisters in Christ are being martyred and driven from their homelands in the countries where the Washington/Saudi/Israeli regime change policy is taking place.
     
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    Perhaps Christians are just being "politically correct". How many are speaking up about the impact of the militant homosexual movement?
     
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    I imagine most Christians are to busy listening to skinny panted moused haired pansies like Joel O and buying his books and dvds or mesmerized by the Sunni Muslim propaganda being pushed on "conservatives" by Faux Snews to speak out against evil.

    And I also imagine listening to preachers telling us to lay down and be silent because "God appoints" psychopathic leaders over us for our own good has had an effect too. Somehow I just can't understand how anyone with half a brain could confuse a lying cheating stealing psychopathic politician with a "minister of God for good".
     
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    I am sure there are more you could add.....
     
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    All the options are unfortunate events, however, scandal wise in relation to the Constitution, I have to go with the NSA spying. That violates so many of the articles in the Bill of Rights.
     
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    Do you really think that the inauguration of a man duly supported by the majority of the Electoral College represents a scandal in the U.S.? What kind of government do you propose? A dictatorship?
     
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    I’m still stuck on “The sequester is not something I proposed, it’s something that Congress proposed. It will not happen,” in Oct 2012… as the first stages were already taking place. But that’s because I personally feel the effect.
     
  20. OldRegular

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    Obama is doing his best to become the first dictator of the US. And I do think it is a scandal that the people of this country would allow this little dictator to serve a second term. A significant number of people were too trifling to vote. That is a second scandal.
     
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