The Fed Is The Great Deceiver

Classic radio talk show host technique of asking leading questions in an attempt to instill suspicion.

 

A sixth grade level explanation of how the Federal Reserve creates money. >YAWN<

 

So now this thread has derailed into a thread about the gold standard? And cites a 48 year old newsletter article?

 

I can't keep silent any longer, ITL. Over the past week all I've seen from you is hatred and hypocrisy. You make an attempt at derailing so many of Poncho's threads, and then when he deviates slightly from a topic, you derail whatever thread that is by saying "attempt to derail thread noted". And this past week, almost all of his replies have been to ignore you and move on. Not all, but close to it. Get over yourself. You are both Christian brothers, and belittling yourself and the name of Christ in this fashion is detestable. Whatever differences you've had in the past, put them in the past.

I can't count the number of times I've quit reading a thread because it became a "bash Poncho" thread by you and a couple others. It gets old after the first 10 or so.

I also disagree with a lot he says. Poncho and I have gone back and forth in PMs before. And that's exactly what you should be doing if you have such a big problem with him. You are rubbing the name of Christ in the dirt publicly with this type of behavior.

I know Poncho can be abrasive by his very insistent and constant nature. I know he's gotten into it with people in the past; he's not innocent by any means. But I challenge you to look back this past week and count how many times you were the instigator. I would wager it's above 75%.

Please, before you respond, I ask you to do a self search and discover whether your anger is directed appropriately.

To Poncho: my apologies for this OT rant. It won't happen again.

 

Strange, but when I look back on Poncho's threads I'm the only one that seems to actually address the subject matter.

"Attempt to derail thread noted" is not bashing Poncho. It's simply stating a fact. Poncho has a monomaniacal posting style--international bankers and the US government is responsible for most of the world's ills. He will attmept to turn almost any thread in Politics into this subject matter. Perhaps you should go back and read some threads and observe this behavior.

I won't PM with him because I think newbies and others on BB need to know that his political viewpoints and theories are off the wall. A silence on this matters could be viewed as tacit approval.

I respectfully disagree. How am I rubbing the name of Christ in the dirt when I point out that Poncho's ideas are wacko. BTW, did you read these posts? Who is rubbing the name of Christ in the dirt?:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2109995&postcount=26

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2110002&postcount=29
Here is what Poncho said to Jordan Kurdecki when Jordan said the way to change the world is to win them to Christ and not post conspiracy theories: Look if you want to be a spineless mindless jellyfish and watch while someone else fights your battles for you fine go stand on the sidelines and watch and count your lucky stars Jesus doesn't come down here and kick your but for working with the enemy to turn His people into a gaggle of whimpering enslaved cowards.

elsewhere:
Not that the mods here actually care about enforcing the rules or anything but just because it irks them to have to actually do some work. They're awful grouchy when they get woke up from their nap.

and you say I'm bashing Poncho?

Sorry, but "attempt to derail thread noted" is not instigating anything. Also, saying, "unsubstantiated allegation" and/or "that is question begging" is not instigating. Posting things like "The False East/West Paradigm Hides the Rise of Global Currency" is certainly provocative and instigating.

Oh, it is.

 

Firstly, ITL, I apologize to you. After re-reading my post, it came off a lot more venemous than I had intended. I am on a computer instead of my phone now, and so should be able to articulate what I mean a little better.

Poncho indeed posts a lot of the same over and again. I agree. I also have noticed how he can turn any political discussion into what to us seems to be inane ramblings. But he believes that he is getting at the root of the problem, which is staying on topic. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Poncho.) What happens is that he will post something, and then someone will poke fun at him, totally derailing the thread instead of just altering its course. And then it gets worse as the poking continues, until the original thread is lost completely.

That's actually why I decided to post publicly instead of PMing you. I believe that your actions are just as wrong, and possibly even moreso, and it's been public for all to see. That's why I am addressing what I view as inappropriate publicly. I cannot fault you for wanting everyone to see what you perceive as logical fallacies, or conspiracy theories, or what-have-you. I just believe that you're going about it in the wrong way.

I did read that thread. I read it closely. And while the verbage was harsher than I'd have personally used, I agree with Poncho there. I don't agree with his viewpoints, but I agree that if you see America heading down the drain, to just sit there and do nothing is cowardice. If you notice, this took place after the thread was derailed horribly by Jordan. As for the mods, I am not a mod. But if I were, anytime I saw "Attempt to derail thread noted" was the only text in a post, I'd instantly delete it when I saw it. Because it only adds to the derailment, instead of helping keep it on track. Then, after deleting it, I'd check to see if the thread it referred to was on topic or not, and take appropriate action. The mods are all busy, I understand; and they can't play babysitter. But it does seem that a lot of the "bash Poncho" sidelines go unchecked by them, even though they're clearly off topic. I can understand Poncho's frustration.

I disagree wholeheartedly here. It is very instigating, given the animosity between you two.

Calling someone on a fallacy is not instigating, per se. But ONLY saying that definitely is. It's an attitude thing. Also, not good debate/discussion.

Brother, I can't know your heart. Maybe it is in the right place. But on the surface it seems that what started off as debunking Poncho's ideas became hounding Poncho himself and targeting everything he says.

I'm just sick of all the animosity on the board. It's not good discussion, it's not good debate, and it's not good fellowship.

 

I'll take what you've said to heart. I have been reacting to him quite a bit lately. I grew up in a household that was into quite a bit of these conspiracy theories and when I thoroughly examined them I found them wanting. They breed a spirit of fear and paranoia for the future, and as Christians we ought to know better. That might be why I object to those sorts of posts so much.

Yes, there is an edge on this board and yes, I do contribute to it at times. I apologize.