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Featured List of White Privilege Proofs Examined

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Sapper Woody, Apr 24, 2015.

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  1. Sapper Woody

    Sapper Woody Well-Known Member

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    I want to go over a list of "proofs" of white privilege that Zach posted a couple times. Reading the list real fast makes it seem like a legitimate thing. Reading it with comprehension, however, brings a totally different result.

    Everyone can do that. Not just white people. There are black schools, black churches, even neighborhoods where whites aren't welcome. A black person has a much easier time staying away from whites than a white person would blacks. Easily verifiable fact.

    Question Begging; assuming that whites are trained to mistrust other colors. You can't use the assumption in the proof. It's invalid.

    Hmmm. This doesn't apply to any color. Only the reasonably well off. I know for the first 30 years of my life, this didn't apply to me. Especially when I first got married, up until I joined the Army. I could not afford to live where I wanted.

    This is actually a very racist statement on her part. Here she is saying that a white neighborhood is pleasant, while a black neighborhood isn't. Regardless of her showing her racism, this is simply not true, per my answer to number 3, and because it's just an idiotic assumption. The nicest neighborhoods I've lived in had the snootiest people that I didn't get along with. And completely contrary to what she's saying, the neighbor I most got along with in the Army was a black man and woman.

    Again, nothing to do with color at all. This has to do with location and wealth.

    BET. Need I say more? Black people only account for 13% of the population. And television and media want to relate to the widest audience possible, so naturally they are going to portray the majority. It's just good business.

    I was going to somewhat agree with these two at first, until I started thinking. In school, even in a predominately (and sometimes solely) white school, I learned about black men and women of history. First one that pops into my mind is George Washington Carver.

    White or Black. Doesn't matter.

    Both are blatantly false. It all depends on where you are. I was the only white person among a group of basketball players once in the inner city. My opinion was heard. And then, in the suburbs, the opposite happened. It's all a matter of context.

    Everyone can.

    I feel like a dozen is enough. Basically, everything she's saying either has nothing to do with race, and is actually a product of income or geolocation, or is plain wrong.

    Oh, there's a couple that actually made me laugh that I want to get to:

    In the Army, this was pretty much the opposite. It was hilarious, and a joke that we used to discuss. But, my NCOs were almost always non-white. In order, my Platoon Sergeants were - Hispanic, White, Black, Hispanic, White, Hispanic/Black. My First Sergeants were - Hispanic, White, Hispanic, White, Black, Hispanic. My Command Sergeants Major were - Black, Black, Black, Black.

    So, out of the people in charge of me, 4 out of 16 were white. Only 25% shared my skin color.

    Not me. I'm too white. These brown "flesh colored" bandages look nothing like my skin. Not even close. I'm not an albino, but I'm a ginger. So, flesh colored for me is basically snow.

    Is this one still talking about color? Seems more like it's talking about the homosexual agenda.

    Anyway, it is my opinion that while racism is alive and well today, as evidenced by some things I've heard since leaving the military (casual use of the "N" word, saying that black people look similar to monkeys (which some of them do, honestly. But that's not to say that black people ARE monkeys. I saw a white guy the other day that looked like Mandark off of Dexter's lab. It was in no way derogatory towards his race.)), but it is no nearly the epidemic that some people make it out to be. You want to see race disappear? Join the military. Race goes out the window. Color doesn't matter one iota.

    That's where we need to get as Americans. But you know what? I never had to feel bad about being white in the military, either. So this whole "white people are oppressing black people" narrative doesn't fly with me. I've seen a place where racism didn't exist. You know why it didn't exist? Because it wasn't allowed to. Not because someone had to apologize for their ancestors.
     
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    What a pathetic and childish list. It is as if she could not actually find anything so she worked real hard to just make up a list of pure pettiness. Bandiads really? :BangHead:
     
    #2 Revmitchell, Apr 24, 2015
  3. Zaac

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    Sapper

    I could go through everyone of these and refute everything you've said. But I won't. But you might ask yourself why, anytime that black people say something about THEIR experiences, white people respond as though they have said that there were not exceptions to what they are saying?

    Instead, yall proceed to completely TRY to discredit what they are saying by presenting what you believe to be an exception. It's the same old same old of if it hasn't happened to me, then what they are saying couldn't possibly be true.

    WHITE PRIVILEGE.

    So ask yourself, why it's so easy for you as a white man, to believe your experiences in these instances, but that somehow what she says Blacks have experienced couldn't possibly be true because your reality differs from the folks she looked at?
     
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    Sapper Woody refuted many of these points by giving his personal experiences. How can you say black people's experiences are valid yet dismiss his experiences?
     
    #4 InTheLight, Apr 24, 2015
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    Isn't the more important question though is just why the 'spiritual leaders" of the Black Americans have on the whole decided to cast their lot with a party that approves of Black genocide, and whose feeling seems to be that we just blindly support the policies and Agendas of one of the most anti christian presidents that we have ever had in office?
     
    #5 Yeshua1, Apr 24, 2015
  6. matt wade

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    How can you possibly trust the opinion of a white woman to tell you what black people experience?
     
    #6 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
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    No one here would trust it if it was the opinion of a Black man.
     
    #7 robustheologian, Apr 24, 2015
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    Could be she is married to a Black man
     
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  9. matt wade

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    What about the black people here. Would they trust it? How about others that don't fall under White Privilege?

    Don't black people also have privilege? As a black person couldn't I say the word nigger and get away with it?
     
    #9 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
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    While the Dems as a majority support abortion, the spiritual leaders (no quotations necessary) do not support abortion. So to answer why they would vote Democrat, it's the choosing of the lesser of two evils.

    The KKK is a self-proclaimed "Christian" organization and Martin Luther King, Jr. was labeled anti-Christian. The label of anti-Christian and Christian is a matter of skewed opinion. If being in an organization that supports un-Christian acts makes everyone in it un-Christian then the Southern Baptist Convention (who admits to the blatant support of slavery) and everyone who was apart of it is anti-Christian.
     
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    I made a claim that if a Black man wrote the same things people here wouldn't trust it. Would you??
     
    #11 robustheologian, Apr 24, 2015
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    Good point.
     
    #12 robustheologian, Apr 24, 2015
  13. matt wade

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    So being married to a black person cancels out White Privilege?
     
    #13 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
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    I didn't dismiss his experiences. I didn't comment to his experiences because he was trying to dismiss the Black people's experience with his own. That's why I said I could also refute everything that he said.

    This seems to be the case most of the time. Pretty much every time someone mentions something that Blacks believe based upon their reality, someone on here or out in the media comes back with their own experience as if it automatically renders the black person's experience null and void.

    And that again is white privilege flexing.

    Part of the race problem in this country is that white people continue to try undervalue, underestimate and marginalize anything that Blacks do or say if it's not in line with what white America wants to believe based upon THEIR experience.
     
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    I think you forgot to address our previous exchange....unless you're addressing it with "good point". If so, I would be glad to answer this question.
     
    #15 robustheologian, Apr 24, 2015
  16. matt wade

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    I don't trust idiotic opinions and assumptions made people of any race or color.
     
    #16 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
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    So it's idiotic because you don't agree with it??? Hmm...sounds like an argument from incredulity...or an auto-epistemic fallacy.
     
    #17 robustheologian, Apr 24, 2015
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    Not really, since there is no such thing as "white privilege", except in the minds of race baiters of the poor me, I'm black variety.
     
    #18 carpro, Apr 24, 2015
  19. matt wade

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    No, you have that backwards. I don't agree with it because it's idiotic.
     
    #19 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
  20. matt wade

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    and you still haven't addressed this one:

    Don't black people also have privilege? As a black person couldn't I say the word nigger and get away with it?
     
    #20 matt wade, Apr 24, 2015
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