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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by sag38, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. sag38

    sag38 Active Member

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    So, am I supposed to feel guilty because I'm blessed with certain things? No,I will not. This privilege thing is getting crazy. I don't feel guilty, not in the least. I feel blessed. And, all I feel toward those who want shame me for being born a certain color, with a certain economic status, with a Mom who read to me as a child, and a push from both parents to get an education is contempt. How dare you!
     
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    Nobody wants you to feel guilty. But you should at least have the courage to admit that being born white in this country has given you a leg up in a lot of areas over Blacks and Latinos.

    If God gave you a do- over, would you come back as Black or White?
     
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    God made some people white. Why would they choose to second-guess Him?
     
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    And God would be giving you the choice to choose.

    Black or White?
     
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    Baloney.

    MTV will air a show later this month entitled White People which shows young white Americans crying on camera over their “white privilege” and publicly shaming them for “what they’ve done in America”.

    No, this is not a joke. The documentary is hosted by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jose Antonio Vargas, an illegal immigrant and amnesty activist who has worked for the Washington Post and the Huffington Post.

    The trailer for the show, which has been widely criticized by YouTube respondents, features white people expressing angst about how they are desperate not to appear “racist” or “offend people.”

    According to Kimberly Ricci, the documentary forces the participants “to internalize what they’ve done in America” – in other words, this a huge exercise in white guilt tripping for public consumption.

    http://www.infowars.com/new-mtv-show-publicly-shames-white-people-for-what-theyve-done-in-america/

    Is it politically incorrect to point out Jose Antonio Vargas' illegal immigrant privilege?
     
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    Silliness. Might as well ask what would happen if worms could use machine guns.

    Me, I'll revel in the creation God has given us, and glorify Him for it all. Y'all seem to want a sinful people to be other than they are, and blaming their skin color for it.
     
  7. sag38

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    So, I have an advantage. Yes, I do. Thank you God and thank you mom and dad. If those pushing this privilege bull manure want to remain a victim then so be it. But, don't drag the rest of us down to your pathetic level.
     
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    The important point is not that many of us are privileged. The important point is what do we do with that privilege to help others who are less privileged.

    This is why the last half of Luke 12:48 is, to me, frightening.


     
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    I am not sure where all this so called white privilege is at. Can some of you other white folks pass some of it my way. Oh, you will also have to show me what it looks like. I have never seen it on me or anyone else.
     
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    http://www.cpt.org/files/Undoing%20Racism%20-%20Understanding%20White%20Privilege%20-%20Kendall.pdf
     
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    As Christians, a study of God's Providence might be in order. When, if ever, is this subject ever preached on? Challies is going through The Mystery of Providence by John Flavel. I've only read a few chapters and it has been interesting.

    Here is a link, the first chapters are at the bottom of the page.

    http://www.challies.com/writings/reading-classics-together

    Unless we have a biblical world view there will be contempt for our percieved "privelages" whatever they may be. However, as Christians the ground is level at the foot of the cross and we know that God has placed us in certain areas, at certain times, with a certain family, with a certain skin color, as part of his overall plan. Anything other than that is just more noise to distract us.
     
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    For Christians the ground is level at the foot of the Cross. Problem is, a lot of these so-called Christians aren't spending any time down there at the foot of the Cross.

    You don't go along with the systemic enslavement and marginalizing of the lives of a demographic as was done during slavery, Jim Crow and today and still be at the foot of the Cross.

    Because if Christians being at the foot of the Cross did all that, then the Cross isn't what the Bible says it is.

    I believe it is. So either It is, or these folks who claim to be at the foot , ain't really there.
     
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    Do you wish that you were white? As often as you gripe about white privilege, one wonders.
     
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    If you are talking about being born with a financial advantage (e.g., being born of a wealthy family in the US) then I think that being white would be the logical choice. Odds are you would have no advantage at all just because you are white, but you would at least have greater chances of being born into money (this is, BTW, a stereotype many black people have expressed towards the white race - they ignore that the "white majority" of wealthy people actually make up a minority of white people). If you are talking about the availability of opportunities or resources based merely on the color of your skin, then black would be the logical choice.

    I have seen people advanced because they were black. I have been tasked at giving positions to both Black and Hispanic people over White people who were better qualified (based on aptitude testing) simply because of the color of their skin (we needed to have a greater minority presence in specific areas). I have seen Black individuals receive college scholarships where their White counterparts (who were just as needy) received none. I have seen people accepted to college based on being a minority while others with higher GPA’s were not able to attend because they were White. If it is racism to deny a Black man something because of the color of his skin, then it is racism to do the same to any person of any color. If it is racism to provide an opportunity to a White man because of the color of his skin, then it is racism to do the same to any person of any color.
     
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    You're so simple.
     
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    Yet statistics show white people to gain most of their wealth from inheritance. And that the wealth gap between white and black continues to widen.

    That's funny.

    Have you noticed it when they have been white? That usually gets glossed over because it happens so routinely.

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    Then you were tasked to break the law as what you just described does not fit the definition of LEGAL Affirmative Action.


    YEp. Went on since the early 1600s like that but only for white students. Still goes on for far mor white students than Black or Hispanic combined.


    Again, this was done for white students for darn near 400 years. When you've had a leg up your entire life and the folks who look like you are the ones making the textbooks and writing the tests and teaching the classes and on and on and on, then you probably will have a higher GPA and better test scores.


    Amazing how many folks didn't mind this when it applies to nearly 400 years of this discrimination towards Blacks. Yet white people STILL deny they have had and still have privilege.

    If for almost 400 years, Whites and their ancestors were afforded these opportunities at the best colleges in the country, why such rancor over giving Blacks that same opportunity for the last 50 or so years?

    The pattern for white people seems to be that nothing is a problem until it's done against other white people.
     
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    Is that a yes?
     
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    So, are all those white folks making more money supposed to just hand over the difference because they are supposedly privileged Sounds like some folks, instead of taking advantage of opportunities to reverse the trend, instead want to play the victim and blame someone else for their situation.
     
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    I am white, as is most of my family. That is not my pattern, the pattern of my family or the pattern of most of white people I know (it is the pattern of some I know). Yet I am confident you do not believe yourself a racist nor do you see your comments as stereotype. Ironic.
     
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    YES you're simple.
     
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