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Native Americans Align With Confederates

Discussion in 'History Forum' started by wpe3bql, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. wpe3bql

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    "On this day (July 12) special commissioner Albert Pike completed treaties with the members of the Choctaw & Chickasaw tribes, giving the new Confederate States of America (CSA) several allies in Indian Territory. Some members of the tribes also fought for the CSA.

    "A Boston native, Pike went west in 1831 & traveled with fur trappers & traders. He settled in AR & became a noted poet, author, & teacher. He bought a plantation & operated a newspaper, the Arkansas Advocate. By 1837 he was practicing law & often represented Native Americans in disputes with the federal government.

    "Pike was opposed to secession, but, nonetheless sided with his adopted state when it left the Union.

    "As ambassador to the Indians, he was a fortunate addition to the CSA, which was seeking to form alliances with the tribes in Indian Territory [basically modern-day OK]. Besides the agreements with the Choctaw & Chickasaw tribes, Pike also engineered treaties with the Creek, Seminole, Comanche, & Caddos, among others.

    "Ironically, many of these tribes had been expelled from the Southern states in the 1830s & 1840s, but they still chose to ally themselves with the CSA during the war.

    "The grudges they held against the CSA were offset by their animosity toward the federal government.

    "Native Americans were also bothered by Republican rhetoric during the 1860 presidential election. Some of Lincoln's supporters, such as William Seward, argued that the land of the tribes in Indian Territory should be appropriated for distribution to white settlers. When the war began in 1861, Secretary of War Simon Cameron ordered all posts in Indian Territory to be abandoned in order to free up military resources for use against the CSA, leaving the area open to invasion by the CSA.

    "By signing these treaties, the tribes severed their relationships with the federal government, much in the way that the Southern states did by seceding from the Union. They were accepted into the CSA, & they sent representatives to the CSA Congress. The CSA government promised to protect the Native American's land holdings & to fulfill the obligations such as annuity payments made by the federal government.

    "Some of these tribes even sent troops to serve in the CSA army, & one Cherokee--Stand Watie--rose to the rank of brigadier general."

    SOURCE: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/confederacy-signs-treaties-with-native-americans
     
  2. Rebel

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    Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.
     
  3. Thousand Hills

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    Interesting. Thanks for sharing.:thumbs:

    Wonder what the modern day lib would think of a Native American waving a confederate flag?
     
  4. wpe3bql

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    I don't know what the "modern day libERTARIAN would think of a Native American waving a confederate flag. Probably something like, "Well, it's his flag.....Let him wave it if he wants to! After all, he's got his 'freedom of expression,' so I don't see any problem." :thumbsup:

    OTOH, if you're talking about a "modern day libERAL, well I'm not sure he'd have an opinion right off hand. You see, he'd first have to check what his local PC Police Department to find out what line they're spouting and then go with that. :laugh:
     
  5. Lewis

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    In some instances, tribes saw the Civil War as an opportunity to win back land that they had lost to earlier encroachment.

    Here is a newspaper account, printed in 1903, of an attempt by some Chippewa and Sioux tribes to win back parts of Minnesota in 1862. It describes the events as experienced by white settlers in the area, and of course lacks narrative of those events as Native Americans who were involved would relate them.
     
  6. Alcott

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    They should have. The same blue-bellied army that fought the south also fought them, under many of the same leaders-- Sheridan, Sherman, Custer...
     
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    lol...well I had ancestors in both US and CS, also have a little bit of Indian in me
    so I don't speak ill of any side. :)
     
  8. Bro. James

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    What we did and continue to do to the Amerinds is despicable; also the Africans.

    For further study: Albert Pike, the poet, author, and freemason. It is interesting to surf the possible connections of F&AM from George Washington to Albert Pike to present day politics. Joseph Smith Jr.(founder of LDS) is in that vein too. He still has over 13 million followers.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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