1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Donald trump wins praise from experts with new immigration plan

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    While most of the permanent political class is still aghast that 2016 GOP presidential frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump put together one of most specific, pro-American worker immigration plans of anyone running for public office, he’s winning widespread praise from key experts on the issue.

    Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) executive director Mark Krikorian told Breitbart News that he’s pleased Trump is drawing a focus to this issue and his plan is spot on.

    Krikorian said in an email:

    The first notable thing about Trump’s immigration plan are the three principles it lays out. Immigration policy must be based exclusively on the interest of We the People of the United States, not wealthy donors, not corporations, not union bosses, not big-city politicians, and not foreign citizens. Why every candidate of every party hasn’t already said this is a mystery. Many of the specifics are also sound: E-Verify, visa-tracking, cutting off aid to sanctuary cities, making overstay of a visa a criminal offense, tightening up on H-1B visas, etc. His support for moderating our current very high levels of legal immigration is welcome, though I look forward to more specifics — which visa categories should be reduced or eliminated? Also, I think the antagonism toward Mexico in the first section is not helpful — Mexico is indeed obstructionist in many areas, though it is helpful in others (for instance, by interdicting many of the Central American illegals headed north). Our approach to our neighbor to the south must be firm, but not ham-handed. But overall, none of the other Republican (or Democratic) candidates (with the exception of Rick Santorum) has as sound and as well thought-through an immigration plan.


    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...raise-from-experts-with-new-immigration-plan/
     
  2. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Immigration reform that will make america great again

    The three core principles of Donald J. Trump's immigration plan

    When politicians talk about “immigration reform” they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.

    Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors. We are the only country in the world whose immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own. That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration reform:

    1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

    2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

    3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform
     
  3. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Just a bunch of general principles completely devoid of specifics.
     
  4. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    No candidates have ever posted on line anymore specifics than that. However, he has gotten very specific.
     
    #4 Revmitchell, Aug 17, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 17, 2015
  5. Doubting Thomas

    Doubting Thomas Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2003
    Messages:
    2,618
    Likes Received:
    7
    The fact that The Donald consulted with Senator Jeff Sessions on immigration, moves him up a notch in my book. :applause:
     
  6. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    873
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Sorta like those "CHANGES" promised by the ZERO in his '08 campaign, huh?

    Or having to pass a bill "to know what's in it"!

    Would be interesting to know how many votes he would have gotten had he been more specific BEFORE having to pull the levers.:sleeping_2:
     
  7. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2004
    Messages:
    19,657
    Likes Received:
    128
    I hope Donald has tightened his security. The PTB aren't going to let anyone interfere with their plan to destroy our sovereignty and implement their global government. They've moved their goal post quite far under the reins of the Bushies, Clintons and Obama I doubt very much they'll let an upstart like Donald Trump scale back what they've accomplished so far.
     
    #7 poncho, Aug 17, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 17, 2015
  8. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Him and Sanders both.
     
  9. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,154
    Likes Received:
    242
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That was impressive. I also look forward to hearing a military plan assisted by some of America's top military minds, now retired.

    I think the Donald is intelligent and savvy enough to surround himself with the best possible people in all areas concerning this nation, and letting them do the heavy lifting while he gets the praise. That is called, DELEGATING. The man didn't get where he is without learning to delegate before you negotiate.
     
  10. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It is too bad that the GOP is not considering the nomination of Senator Jeff Sessions!

    The Donald continues to repeat that he is well-educated, having studied at the Wharton School of Finance.
     
  11. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    38,982
    Likes Received:
    2,615
    Faith:
    Baptist
    ITL, okay - here is a challenge for you:

    Will you present us a specific plan to end illegals in this country
     
  12. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    No. I'm not running for any office and I haven't researched the problem.
     
  13. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Wow. You did it. It took some time, but you finally did it.

    Belched pure rhetoric in response to a conservative plan to protect America without even making it try to sound intelligent.

    I want to be fair, though. I know it's hard work to maintain an informed conservative aura when defending liberal principles. You've done it for a long time and I commend your stamina.
     
  14. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    13,757
    Likes Received:
    222
    It's okay ITL. If being a conservative means you are put in the same boat as someone who has a racist representing flag as an avatar, please be a liberal. :laugh:
     
  15. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::applause:
     
  16. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Other than building a wall, "that Mexico will pay for", what is Trump's immigration plan? Anyone?

    BTW, I'd like to know the specifics on how he'd get Mexico to pay for the wall.

    Trump supporters may post links to his specific plans.
     
  17. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    1. A nation without borders is not a nation.

    2. A nation without laws is not a nation.

    3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation.

    Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

    Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

    Triple the number of ICE officers.

    Nationwide e-verify

    Mandatory return of all criminal aliens

    Detention—not catch-and-release

    Defund sanctuary cities

    Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa

    Cooperate with local gang task forces

    End birthright citizenship

    Put American Workers First

    Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs

    Requirement to hire American workers first

    End welfare abuse

    Jobs program for inner city youth.

    Refugee program for American children.

    Immigration moderation

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform


    If you actually read the link provided the answer is right there:

    Seriously, where do people on this board get the idea that they somehow deserve this little attitude they give other people with whom they disagree with? What about you makes you deserve your attitude?
     
  18. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform
     
  19. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    22,016
    Likes Received:
    487
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It's ok. He's got Zaac.


    All the info is in your links. This reaction by ITL is ridiculous. I just don't get it.
     
  20. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    52,013
    Likes Received:
    3,649
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I get it. Maybe we should all spend less time trying to demonize that which we disagree with but cannot show any real reason to disagree.
     
Loading...