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Featured Ben Carson teaches that Jesus will kill all Sunday worshippers at His return.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Russell Earl Kelly PHD, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. Russell Earl Kelly PHD

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    Do not support Ben Carson. He teaches that Jesus will kill all Sunday worshippers when He returns..

    by Russell Earl Kelly, PHD, October 21, 2015


    Dr. Ben Carson is dishonest when it comes to his faith. As an ordained Seventh-day Adventist elder and Sabbath-School teacher, he is fully aware of its doctrinal teachings. Yet he manages to hide his real faith from public view and has done so for decades.


    The Seventh-day Adventists’ doctrinal statement and its prophetess Ellen G White teach opposite from what Carson often teaches in public. Therefore Carson should either renounce the SDA Church and Ellen G. White or stop teaching contradictory views. Furthermore, because of what SDAs teach about the United States government, they should not be allowed to hold public office.


    Christian Post published an article by Sami Martin about Carson’s faith on September 12, 2015. The following are examples of his contradictory double standards.


    Post: Carson is also well-known for his religious beliefs.


    Adventist News Network, 4-5-2013:

    ANN: Are there ever any times when you feel it’s best to distinguish yourself from the Seventh-day Adventist Church and what it teaches? Carson: No, I don’t. http://news.adventist.org/all-news/news/go/2013-04-05/church-chat-carson-handles-spotlight-prayerfully-humbly/

    Comment: He has been hiding his SDA elder-teacher doctrines for decades and nobody has researched and challenged him in this area.

    Post: This Seventh-day Adventist has relied upon his faith from a young age and continues to do so today.


    Comment: Yes, but he speaks opposite words according to his audience.


    Post: Even though he belongs to the Seventh-day Adventist church, he often attends churches of different traditions and has said that he appreciates the beliefs of other faiths.


    Kelly: Sincere SDAs would not say this. SDAs call Roman Catholics the antichrist beast of Revelation 13 and the great whore of Revelation 17. They call Protestants the daughters of the great whore. SDA pastors join ecumenical pastoral fellowships to convert them; they hide their real doctrines. Carson worships with what his church calls false believers who worship on Sunday, the mark of the antichrist beast. [Rev 14:8]


    Carson: "I'm not convinced that the denomination is the most important thing."


    Kelly: This is either a very great delusion or else a deliberate lie. SDAs teach that they exclusively are the only true church and everybody else is harlot Babylon or its harlot daughters. Read The Great Controversy, pages 615-616.


    Carson: “… it's the relationship with God that's most important."


    Comment: This is contrary to SDA doctrine. If Carson believes this is true, then he needs to publicly renounce both Seventh-day Adventism as a false exclusive cult and publicly disagree with Ellen G. White.


    Carson: "As a Christian, I am not the least bit offended by the beliefs of Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Mormons and so forth. In fact, I am delighted to know that they believe in something that is more likely to make them into a reasonable human being, as long as they don't allow their religion to be distorted by those seeking power and wealth." America the Beautiful, 2012.


    Comment: No SDA leader or even church elder-teacher would be allowed to publicly say this without suffering great discipline from his/her SDA church and even denominational leaders! As a former SDA pastor I know better. A lesser member would have been punished long ago. SDAs teach that only Sabbath-keeping SDAs will be saved in the last days.


    Post: Carson believes that religious practices should be respected across the country so long as they do not limit or infringe upon the rights of others and links religious "persecution" in America to acts of persecution from abroad.


    Comment: SDAs are urged to anticipate religious persecution from everybody else because the last-day great tribulations will be blamed on them. SDAs see themselves as targets of a death decree for not worshipping on Sunday. Read The Great Controversy, 626, below.


    Carson: “… ensuring that no one's beliefs infringe upon those of others."


    Comment: This is radically contrary to SDA marching orders. It is their mission to convert as many as possible to Saturday worship before the mark of the beast is imposed upon themselves.


    Carson: “… as long as there's more than one force, you are not going to have one force dominating everything. I do believe that will eventually be the case, but it's not the case now.”


    Comment: SDAs teach one world government and one world church dominated by Satan and antichrist immediately through apostate Roman Catholicism and apostate Protestants before Jesus returns to rescue Sabbath-keepers from their death decree. Read The Great Controversy, pages 615-616, below.


    Carson: “To try to impose one's religious beliefs on someone else is absolutely what we should not be doing.


    Comment: This is exactly opposite what SDAs teach. It is the mission of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, of which Carson is a local elder and Sabbath-school teacher, to convert as many as possible to Sabbath-keeping to save them.


    Ben Carson cannot have it both ways. Again, he must either repudiate all of his public evangelical statements or else publicly renounce Seventh-day Adventism and Ellen G. White. He cannot continue to teach one belief system to his SDA church on Saturday and another to the non-SDA world at large. God hates liars.


     
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    I said since day one of learning that he was an SDA that he could not receive my support.
     
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    In agreement with Zaac. I really hope this election does not come down to the lesser of two evils.
     
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    Shoot, the lesser of two evils isn't getting my vote either. Biggrin We are in too bad of a place morally in this country and around the world, and we're too close to Jesus coming back for me to do anything that supports evil in any form ruling over folks.

    I'll probably be writing someone in again.
     
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    2012. Here...we...go...again...
     
  6. Zaac

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    Yep. This should tell evangelicals in the GOP a thing or too. Why does the GOP keep pushing these questionable anti-Christs upon their evangelical base?

    And better yet, why do evangelicals keep standing for it?
     
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    Or the other choice is that all dogs go to heaven. Which is better?
     
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    Wow, here you go again showing your disdain and prejudice, but BLM continues to gets your thumbs up. Strange bedfellows follow you where ever you open your mouth.

    I know a lot of SDA's and they do not teach this. This may be Carson's teaching, but you can't judge them all according to his apparent hardline core.
     
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    Thank you brother. I wondered if he was an orthodox SDA holding to hardline doctrines that most SDA's don't value nor believe. Carson is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Not what you want in the oval office. Same goes for a Mormon.
     
  10. annsni

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    But is a heathen any better?
     
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    Based upon what some of you said during the last election cycle, the heathen would get your support if his "values" were consistent with "conservative" values.
     
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    Yep, Back to the Future. Same as three years ago, and likely the same outcome next year.
     
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    What an absolutely terrible thing to teach people. Jesus is full of nothing but love. It would make no sense for him to kill off Sunday worshipers upon his return. I hope no one took this man seriously and isn't living in fear of the consequences.
     
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    It will be.
     
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    Have you read the New Testament? Jesus is full of a lot more than just love. He's also full of justice.
     
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    Don't they?!?
     
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    That is mostly true, but the democrats/liberals have shown and demonstrated over the last seven years that a heathen is getting their vote and support right to the end of his term! So I guess, Obama's values and morals are more consistent with the liberal agenda then with the conservative agenda. If this were not true, there would be a conservative in the White House! :confused:
     
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    Show me a quote where he teaches that particular doctrine.
     
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    It has in every presidential election in my memory, at least to a lot of people.. Why would this one be any different?
     
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