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Another Benghazi Lie Exposed

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...iately-specifics-blacked-out-in-new-document/


    Judicial Watch: New Benghazi Email Shows DOD Offered State Department “Forces that Could Move to Benghazi” Immediately – Specifics Blacked Out in New Document


    Judicial Watch today released a new Benghazi email from then-Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash to State Department leadership immediately offering “forces that could move to Benghazi” during the terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. In an email sent to top Department of State officials, at 7:19 p.m. ET, only hours after the attack had begun, Bash says, “we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.” The Obama administration redacted the details of the military forces available, oddly citing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) exemption that allows the withholding of “deliberative process” information.

    Bash’s email seems to directly contradict testimony given by then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta before the Senate Armed Services Committee in February 2013. Defending the Obama administration’s lack of military response to the nearly six-hour-long attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Panetta claimed that “time, distance, the lack of an adequate warning, events that moved very quickly on the ground prevented a more immediate response.”

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    “The Obama administration and Clinton officials hid this compelling Benghazi email for years,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The email makes readily apparent that the military was prepared to launch immediate assistance that could have made a difference, at least at the CIA Annex. The fact that the Obama Administration withheld this email for so long only worsens the scandal of Benghazi.”
     
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    Anyone with half a brain, assuming they used it, knew that help could have been sent to Benghazi
    with time to spare!
     
  3. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Somebody in government should be held accountable for the deaths of those men. But I don't have much hope it will ever happen. Obama was AWOL. Hillary was evidently just incapable of making the decision. She may have just frozen in a crises.
     
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    If Hillary Clinton wasn't running for President, this would have already gone away.

    It just ain't gonna stick so yall can stop trying. Meanwhile, you've got a crazy man to contend with at the top of the Republican heap.
     
  5. Jkdbuck76

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    Zaac, Trump isn't responsible for the death of a US Ambassador along with three other citizens then trying to run a laughable story about a YouTube video to cover it up. I don't want a sociopath like Hillary running this country. Ever.

    Demorats like Hillary and Omuslim could rip babies out of pregnant women and eat them on live TV and the leftist media would cover for them.

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    True. But now we have proof Hillary and Obama were lying.

    Again.
     
  7. Zaac

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    Oh that's so cute. One day yall say the crazy people are responsible for their crazy. The next day yall want to place the blame on the death of a US Ambassador on the President and the Secretary of State who just happened to be thousands of miles away.Rolleyes

    It really does sound a tad bit political. SO which one is it because I can't tell with you GOP denizens.
     
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    Zaac, I'm an independent. But I can smell incompetence. And Hillary REEKS of it.

    And you're trying to shift the focus from Hillary's ineptitude or apathy to Donald Trump. This thread is NOT about Donald Trump.

    I repeat: this thread is not about Captain Combover!!!!

    Nor is this thread about you. Nor is it about me. Do us and yourself a favor and discuss the actual issues at hand which is this: Judicial Watch uncovered a document stating that military assets could be moved immediately during the beginning of the attack....which contradicts what Leon Panetta said. THAT is the issue here....not Trump. So I'm not satisfied with your deflections. The process must still take place as it should whether or not you think anything will "stick" to Clinton. In fact, the next time some police officer shoots a black person and an investigation is called, I'll be sure to remind you that nothing will stick to the officer so why bother? You know, to flip things back on you to see how YOU like it.

    Having said that, what are your thoughts about the topic? What do you think about this new information? What does it say to you about our government?

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  9. Zaac

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    The American populace tends to disagree as they view the former Senator and former Secretary of State as the most competent person running for the office of the Presidency at current. You may claim independency all you wish, but it's nothing but pure partisan politics to think that a woman who has held the positions she has is incompetent.

    You're trying to shift the focus away from the fact that nobody cares about this except the folks on the right who are being radicalized by Fox News and it's band of inciting hosts.

    Man please. The only reason this is being tossed around is because of a Presidential race. She's in it. And the wickedness and foolishness of Captain Combover is right there with her.

    And I'm not satisfied with your pure foolishness. Did you say anything to the person who in reply #3 started talking about Obama and Hillary? Of course you didn't because it doesn't go with the narrative of why this is really STILL being talked about.:D So save the disdain for someone who can't see what the real reason is behind the story and your tacit approval.

    I gave my thoughts on the article. But YOU seem to be confused. SO let me say it again. This is a waste of time and nothing more than a smear campaign because Hillary Clinton is running for the Presidency. Nobody cares at this point except folks on the right who are set to embarrass her to try to keep her out of the White House. Children in pre-school could tell you that neither you nor anyone else on the right or claiming independency gives a flying hoot about what happened in Benghazi. This is political fodder just as abortion has become.

    What new information? Why on earth would anyone in the United States think that the US wasn't able to get forces over there just as quickly as they could have wanted? We can get forces, officially or unofficially, anywhere in the world we want. It might cause an international uproar, but we can still do it. So stop acting like this is some new " oh we finally nailed them information". It's not. It's as inane and partisan as been the rest of the Benghazi witch hunt.
    It says the government does what it wants to when it wants to. It says the the right is desperate to beat Hillary Clinton and is still grasping for straws. It says that nobody really cares about an investigation where the Republican House Majority leader makes it clear that the reason for the investigation was to hurt Hillary Clinton's election efforts, all the while his party has a crazy man as their top candidate. It says that the right would use their positions as a political tool that really has nothing to do with the people and their government.

    So stop wasting money and move on. The American people are done with Benghazi so McCarthy and friends can hang up their hats and start working on something else that matters and isn't being used as a political weapon. And when the primary crazy in the GOP field starts trying to make this an issue the same way he did the Obama birther mess, it's just further proof of how unhinged and desperately PITIFUL the GOP has gotten. They deserve to be beaten to a pulp next November for this continued brand of foolishness that's pretty much become their calling card along with more an more overt racism and racial prejudice.
     
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    Zaac, a person who ignored several pleas for help sat back and did nothing. Then tried to cover it up and blame it on a Youtube video. That person seeks the highest office in this land. That most certainly is relevant.

    Second, I have plenty of disdain for times when people enter a discussion and distract from the point. Donald Trump has nothing to do with this so I'm honked off that you'd bring it up. We're trying to discuss new information and you run in here and yell SQUIRREL!!


    So if Hillary isn't incompetent, how do you explain the 4 Americans killed there with no help? Apathy? Cowardice? Inability to command? Distraction?

    And I leave u with this question: if we really can scramble forces anywhere as quickly as we want...why didn't the State Department do it?

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  11. Zaac

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    That's a nice spin. If THAT is what you think happened, try to sell it. All you've got to do is repeat it again and again the way Trump does. Some folks will fall for it.Thumbsup But alas, this is all about one side trying to create a distraction and a most incredible war for us to be involved.

    Too late. The GOP secret is out. More and more people every day are trusting , less and less, anything coming out of the McCarthy led witch hunt and the foolish mouths of the majority of the GOP candidates for the Presidency. There's something SEVERELY wrong and it has very little to do with what happened in Benghazi.
    Like I've said to others. Save the false disdain for someone who believes you. If there were any merit to what you are saying, you would have addressed the person who brought up Obama and Hillary before I mentioned Trump. What your disdain is REALLY for is laid bare for everyone to see so stop trying to convince yourself that it has anything to do with me mentioning the aforementioned two or Trump.


    I'll explain it right about the time you explain us going to war with a country that hadn't done anything to us.

    The State Department doesn't command military forces. The President does. This foolishness has gone on for the last 3 years. Some of you act like there was some sort of seat of world power hidden in an embassy in Libya and the administration did everything within its power to make sure that four people could be killed in order to give away that seat of world power.

    Stop with all this trying to "gotcha" that woman.Rolleyes If George W Bush can make the mistake of sending us after WMDs that weren't there chasing after folks who had not bombed us on 9/11, seeing thousands killed and was forgiven, then certainly the current administration can be forgiven for any hesitance of response in which four people died.

    But we know that neither this story nor your rant are REALLY about what happened in Benghazi.

    You're playing politics just as the McCarthy led witch hunt committee has been. And self admittedly so by McCarthy.
     
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    Zaac, I'll let Hillary explain why we went to war with Iraq...she voted for it after all.








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    Here, Capro. Zaac thinks I should yell at you and have disdain for you.

    SO....BLAH!!! How dare you speak to the topic and not mention Donald Trump!!! I hereby DISDAIN YOU!!!

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    Pretty sorry state of affairs when 4 men, including an ambassador, are murdered. Extra security was requested multiple times before the killing. Support was available during the assault, but never sent. All of it was lied about And no one at all in the administration is held responsible. No one is at fault. No one takes responsibility. We have a pathetic group of human beings in charge of our government.
     
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    The words "I take full responsibility" ring hollow.

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