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Changed Not Exchanged!

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by tyndale1946, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
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    There is a post currently running on understanding preterism!... I also went through preterism but where preterism and I parted was the understanding of a bodily resurrection of the dead. The Apostle Paul devoted a full chapter in I Corinthians 15 to just this subject... Our resurrected bodies will be changed not exchanged!... Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated!... Do you agree with a bodily resurrection of the dead or not?... Brother Glen

    I Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


    There are many Scriptural reasons for believing that we will be raised with the same body that died. First, Christ was raised in the same body He had before He died. We know this because the tomb was empty (Luke 24:1-6) and because His resurrected body retained scars from the crucifixion (John 20:25, 27). Since Christ's resurrection is the pattern that our resurrection will follow (Philippians 3:20-21; 1 Cor. 15:49), then we will also be raised with the same body.

    Second, this is also evident from the very meaning of the term "resurrection of the dead" (1 Corinthians 15:13, etc.). The phrase means: that which is dead (namely, our body) is made alive. If the same body that died is not the body that was raised, Paul could not call it the "resurrection of the dead." It would not be a resurrection at all.

    Third, the phrase "the dead will be raised" (1 Cor. 15:52) also communicates this. John Piper comments on this verse that, "If God meant to start all over with no continuity between the body I have now and the one I will have, why would Paul say 'the dead will be raised'? Why would he not say, 'the dead will not be raised (since they are decomposed and their molecules are scattered into plants and animals for a thousand miles) and so God will start from scratch'? He did not say that, because it is not true" (Future Grace, 372).

    Fourth, Philippians 3:20-1 says that our earthly body is transformed into conformity with Christ's body in the resurrection, not that God creates a new body from scratch: "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself."

    Fifth, Jesus speaks of the resurrection as involving the coming forth out of tombs, which strongly indicates that the resurrection is the reanimation of the body that had been lied to rest originally: "An hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment" (John 5:28-29).

    Sixth, Paul's statement "it is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body" (1 Corinthians 15:42) establishes that there is a continuity between our current body and our resurrected body, for it is the same "it" in both cases.

    Seventh, verse 53 indicates that the same body we have now (which is mortal), will become immortal: "For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."
     
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    . . . we shall be changed . . .

    It's not only our bodies, but to think our bodies will carry the marks of their wounds or age I don't think is founded in the fact that Christ's wounds are visible above.

    Paul said that wondering about our new bodies is pointless and vain.
     
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    1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
     
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    Are you in agreement with me, or are you making a case for our own physical wounds to be visible in the Resurrection?

    If it's the latter, let me ask, are Christ's stripes visible? What about the puncture wounds of the thorns? The ripping of His beard? His bruises?

    What of those whose bones were broken, were burned at the stake, beheaded or otherwise mutilated for the testimony of Christ? Are those wounds visible? In the Resurrection will we be raised circumcised or uncircumcised?

    Saying that we shall be like him isn't saying that we will be raised with the marks of our wounds, and I might point out, it is only the wounds of His hands and His side that are recorded as still visible.
     
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    Yes I agree with you... I don't believe any of Gods children will have any imperfections when their bodies are resurrected... We won't have to be told there is Jesus The Son Of The Most High God... Our Savior and Redeemer... The Christ!... We will know him from the depth of our intermost being who died for us... We Will Know, Our Lord, Our King, Our God!... That's what I believe Aaron!... Brother Glen
     
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