Are Christians in Trouble Spiritually?

Only those who are in Christ are Christians. Self identification is not a guarantee of being in Christ.

 

No.

No one except the Son can obey every word of the Father.
Being in Christ means that God the Father sees God the Son and his propitiation for our sins. In Christ we have a right standing before the Father.

Romans 5 and 6 may be helpful for you.

 

Nope, I never said that. Re-read my comment. In fact, quote it back for us so you can see what I said.

Do you obey every thing commanded in the Bible? Are you capable of doing so? (Careful here, it's a trick question. )

How are we made right in God's sight? Perhaps reading Romans 3 would help you answer this. Come back with your answer after reading the chapter.

 

We ought to try our best to be obedient, but that obedience comes entirely as an expression of gratitude to God for redeeming us when we had no chance at redeeming ourselves. God made us right in Christ. We now live to bring glory to our Redeemer.
"For I have been crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live. Yet, not I, but Christ lives within me. And the life I live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God who loves me and gave himself for me."
~ Galatians 2:20

Our faith will produce good works. It is faith in Jesus.

Don't worry. Jesus promises he will never leave us nor forsake us. Rejoice and know God loves you.

 

Where in the text does it state "believers?" "Many..." The anti-Christ(s), the false prophet(s)... This appears a messed up discussion which started with a false premise.

 

No one but God, our Lord Christ Yeshua and Savoir is perfect being without sin -
Christ Yeshua redeemed our spirit not our flesh ,its still sinful and lusts after the things of the world ,our spirit the things of God and so they war one against the other.
We will not be perfect until the day of resurrection.
Now though we in and of our selves (flesh) are not perfect our spirit being born again of Christ is perfect for God does not give faulty gifts ; our born again spirit of Christ given us is from above.
What is born of the flesh (sin) is flesh ; What is born of the Spirit is spirit and sins not ..the flesh sins ...
If we do sin we have an advocate who is Christ Yeshua .
Understand in order to grow spiritually that is in understanding and obedience one born again of Christ Yeshua needs to submit to the Spirit within -
We cannot grow more saved we are saved that is finished ,we can and must grow spiritually ,that is more mature and that means submitting our flesh to the Spirit within-
Though we will never be Perfect until the day of resurrection perfection is being worked out in our flesh as we submit it to the Spirit within " He who started a good work in you will to the end"
We are saved by grace and judged by our works that is according to our works we will receive our crown .
Christians are not sinless but true Christians will not " PRACTICE" sin .
"In that day I will say to them Depart from Me I NEVER knew you; you who PRACTICE Lawlessness.
Two key words there are NEVER and PRACTICE ...
Never knew them, means just that they were never one with the Lord never had a relationship with Him ,their spirit was not reborn of His Spirit and became one with the Lord for they only professed with their libs but their heart was far from the Lord for they continue "Practicing" sin.
God communes with our spirit not our flesh and that is why when we pray we are to pray in spirit for only our spirit can go before the Throne of Grace in prayer .
Its not written in the Bible but I believe when we read we must pray first and read ,meditate in our spirit what we are reading for our flesh cannot understand the things ,the Words of God for He is above-
If we read in our physical conscience we will reason with our flesh what we have read
" God communes with our spirit not our flesh".
The reason none can claim to be perfect is because our flesh was not redeemed and that is why we spend more time in their physical conscience than we do in our spiritual conscience ..if we read the Bible more and pray we would do well " Do well to spend more time in the Word less time on the things of the world ... Our spirit desires the things of the Word our flesh the things of the world
Remember though we (our flesh) will never be perfect I believe perfection is worked out in our flesh when we submit our flesh to the Holy Spirit within to do His Will not the will of our flesh .
He who started a good work in you will continue until the end in order to do a good work in us we the Clay must submit to the One molding us. Amen...

 

Context, man

Matthew 7
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

 

Do you eat shellfish?
Do you wear cotton and polyester shirts?
Do you believe that 'attempting' to keep God's commands is sufficient?
Does your righteousness exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees? If so, how?

Just wondering.

 

At this present time I am reading the Treasury Of David by Charles Spurgeon. For those who don't know it is commentary on the Psalms... The scriptures say David was a man after God's own heart... But to me David in his obedience to the Lord struggled and fell time after time after time and the Lord picked him up time after time after time... It is any different with us?... You see David no mater what condition he was in realized all that he had was because God was is friend... David extolled and praised his God no matter what condition he was in... He didn't praise himself but looked to his God only for help... Are we always going to be obedient and follow the Lord?... I've been like David through trials and tribulation, heartaches and disappointments while trying to be obedient. I have struggled and fell only after the Lord dealing with this poor unworthy worm of the dust brought me to my feet again allowed me to follow him... One poem I love is "Footprints"... if you haven't read it... Read it... This is a great post by the way... Brother Glen

 

Thanks for your reply.

Mark 7:18. So [Jesus] said to them, "Are you also without understanding? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it goes into his stomach, and is eliminated, Thus purifying all foods? And He said, what comes out of a man, that defiles a man.'
Acts 10:13-15. 'And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat."......."Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."........."What God has cleansed you must not call common."'
Romans 14:14. 'I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself.....'

Deuteronomy 22:11. 'You shall not wear a garment of different sorts, such as wool and linen mixed together.' Polyester had not yet been invented, but the commandment is clear.

Thank you, but that was not what I asked. I asked if to 'attempt' (your word) to keep God's commands is sufficient. 'For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble at one point, he is guilty of all' (James 2:10).

Philippians 3:5. 'Concerning the law, a Pharisee......concerning the righteousness that is in the law, blameless.' Is your righteousness greater than that? Otherwise you will by no means enter the kingdom of God (Matthew 5:20).

'......And be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is by faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith' (Philippians 3:9).

 

No, as only Jesus could every do that, but it does mean to receive the Messiah that God sent!