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“What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive." "The venom of asps is under their lips." "Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness." "Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known." "There is no fear of God before their eyes."” - Romans‬ ‭3:9-18‬ ‭ESV‬‬

 

True, true. One thing though Reformed - Legalized abortion was a social directive taken out of the hands of the citizenry and forced upon us.
In 1973 I was old enough to vote yet legalized abortion was decide upon by the SCOTUS under a Republican administration under the disguise of "A Woman's Right to Choose".

No one on either side of the aisle has attempted legislation to overthrow Roe versus Wade via the will of the people.

The Trump/Pence administration has made that promise, President Trump has taken a giant step in that direction by the appointment of Neil Gorsuch.

I believe A large part of the fury of the Trump/Pence Administration Resistance is because they ("progressives") know the reversal of "A Woman's Right to Choose" by the SCOTUS is inevitable.

HankD

 

From your hand to God’s ear.

The problem(s) will never be resolved until righteousness rules the nations.

At that time there will be no need for SCOTUS of any nation, for He alone will rule with a rod of iron.

 

Agreed, but while I am here on planet earth I will do whatever I legally can to defeat the works of darkness especially those which promote
the legalized bloodshed of the innocent. Support groups which are pro-life, support and vote for pro-life candidates.

HankD

 

Reversing Roe v. Wade will simply return to the status quo ante, and will have little, if any, impact on the number of abortions. The only way to change the culture is through the gospel, not politics.

I think all abortions should be illegal based on the principle of double effect:

lifeissues | Abortion: Correct Application of Natural Law Theory

 

No, the principle of double effect says there should be intentional killing of an unborn baby, not even to save the life of the mother. From the article I posted:

"In short, a pregnant woman who is faced with the grim reality of impending death short of the use of, e.g., chemotherapy or hysterectomy, may use these and other morally licit medical treatments and procedures for the reasonably grave reason of saving her life, as long as the death of her unborn child is not directly intended as the end (or purpose) of using these procedures, or is the means by which her life is saved, but only allowed or permitted to happen as an accidental by-product of these medical actions, and no other reasonable medical treatment is available. However, the directly intended death of an unborn child by means of procured abortion remains morally indefensible - even to save the life of the mother, or for the best of intentions, or under very difficult circumstances - even in the case of incest or rape."

 

Oh, I agree Reformed, my heart is heavy when I stand for our anthem or sing/hear other patriotic songs because of our present government..

But I do stand and render respect for my country knowing that most would probably vote against abortion if brought to a referendum vote.

Our family does remember the birth of Christ This time of the year but again the joy of the season is dampened considerably by our governments sin against those in the womb.

Surely their blood cries out to our father in heaven.

This depraved act of cold blooded slaughter hit me worse than any because this individual willfully killed an 18 month old baby.



HankD

 

If it comes down to saving the life of the mother (e.g. tubular pregnancy) by killing the fetus then it should be the mother's decision ALONE IMO.
Not anyone else, husband, parents, brother, sister, pastor, priest, etc... No input from anyone but the attending physician unless she requests otherwise...

She will have the greatest cross to bear.

HankD

 

Gentlemen, I suggest you read the article more carefully and logically.

 

Actually even the Catholic Church will allow that kind of ectopic pregnancy to be terminated because the decision was made to remove the tube that was killing your wife. the child was not the motivation of the abortion but the necessity of the removal of the damaged tube which would have caused your wife to bleed out.

My wife had one as well between our second and third child but it aborted naturally as the doctor was prepping to remove it.

HankD

 

I completely agree!


This is the way God always displayed His disproval (wrath) in the Scriptures.

What other than great evil erupts when God withholds His approval!

Be it snakes, invasions, earthquakes, famine, flood, ...

Look at Job, when God withdrew His Hand of protection.

If God is willing for such to be that of a righteous man, what is in storage for the ungodly?

 

Nope,

In each situation, throughout Scriptures, God, by removing His protection, allows both the ungodly human and natural forces to run true to to their fallen estate.

Examples: flood, frogs, boils, snakes, fire falling, earthquake, famin, plagues, defeat, conquered, ... all manner of tragedies, personal and environmental.


At ONLY the second coming does the Scripture describe the literal force of God as He descends crushing the evil world wide.

 

I don’t see anybody working on a repeal... please inform me what action is being taken. Thanks