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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. Revmitchell

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    LOL the squawkers over at the Pullet and Hen blog are reporting that Al Mohler has forbid seminary faculty from signing this anti social justice manifesto:

    Mohler Forbids SBTS Faculty From Signing the “Social Justice and the Gospel Statement“

    "Mohler’s response to the impending Dallas Statement is to warn the faculty of SBTS to not sign it, under threat of termination....Pulpit & Pen is prepared to release correspondence between Mohler’s office and certain of SBTS faculty, instructing them to not sign the statement under threat of termination....at least one faculty member wants people to know that not everyone at SBTS is on board with Mohler’s stance on this issue or his prohibition against signing the Dallas Statement."
     
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    I don't see any issue with the statement. The article on Original Sin may cause some not to sin that normally would, but I see a lot of affirmation of biblcal teaching here.

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    I have a problem with the original sin statement but i signed it anyway. Over all it is a good statement.
     
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    “It is an issue that should unite all who are concerned about the authority, inerrancy and sufficiency of God’s Word as well as the integrity of our gospel witness,” Dr. Ascol said. “The statement has been written and is being published because we are convinced that the gospel is being threatened by ideas and movements that find their origins in worldly, unbiblical philosophies.”

    Read more at Conservative Christians issue Statement on Social Justice and The Gospel
     
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    What is the origin and purpose of this statement?

    Thanks.
     
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    Apparently this was hatched by someone named Josh Buice right after this year's SBC meeting:

    Tom Ascol of the Founders faction of Southern Baptists explains:

    founders.org/2018/09/04/the-statement-on-social-justice-and-the-gospel/
     
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    For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. - I Corinthians 15:22
     
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    What aspect of that? As we are all born lost in Adam, and made spiritually alive again in Christ, correct?
     
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    I might restate it to place emphasis that only those in Christ now the ones alive, as makes it sem mor eopen ended as to who is really saved as worded!
     
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    Let's not high jack this thread on to a Calvinism debate. That is not why I posted what I did and it not why Rev posted what he did. Rev was just stating he put aside an obvious difference to sign something he generally believed in. He was looking "big picture" if you will.

    Back to topic of the statement. I wish I could say I was shocked, but I am disappointed that so many people are attacking the statement. It has been labeled a racist document by thousands of people on social media...I doubt most have actually read it. I honestly cannot see any hint of racism in the document. At least 2 big name minority pastors have signed or gave it their approval on twitter. These SJW types are losing their minds.

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    Correct thank you.

    Well it disagrees with the ideology behind social justice as that term is used today. It denies there are oppressors and victims and those victims need social justice warriors to protect the victims from us oppressors. It denies that just because one is white he/she is automatically an oppressor. It denies that if you are a minority you cannot be racist. Those are the reasons why they are calling it racist.
     
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    That statement about dead in Adam, and now alive in Christ is the same regardless if one is calvinist or not though!
     
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    Is that statement basically saying that while Christians need to be involved in sociiety and the culture on these issues, we must always allow the scriptures themselves to define what i sjust and injust, not Black lives matter, getting slavery paid back, homosexual/lesbian movement etc?
     
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    It is saying just what I posted earlier. It denies that there are oppressors of minorities, it denies that just because you are right you are racist, it denies that if your are a minority you cannot be racist. etc.
     
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    The writer of that article will be disappointed to read Thabiti Anabwile say on Twitter account, "This is a wonderfully designed website and a great statement. I think I agree with everything that's in it."



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    I don't like the fact that on the web site that provides this statement there is no identification of who authored the document. The authors are not even provided on the download of the complete document.
    https://statementonsocialjustice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SSJG-FINAL.pdf

    By doing a little searching I was able to find that it comes from the Founders Ministries. Why should anyone sign a document that doesn't identify its authors?
     
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    That would be the people who are "initial signers". They are the people involved in its development.

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