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The Absolute Equality of Jesus and The Father

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Nov 18, 2020.

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    John 10:15 says he lays his life down for the sheep.
     
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    So are you telling me you're a sheep? Because you're elect. More Philosophy HUH! There is not even a mention of a gentile being elect in scripture.
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    That's not philosophy. That is Scripture. And yes, there is mention of Gentiles being elect in Scripture. Paul mentions it in quite a few of his letters to Gentiles.
     
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    It also says
    Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
    The first is for the elect the second is for the rest of us who believe. Besides you are not a sheep unless you believe.
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    Prove it.
     
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    Yes the Gentiles.
     
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    So your admitting you have to believe first.
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    This thread is NOT a place to debate election or anything about Calvinism. Please start your own thread for these. thanks
     
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    Thought we were discussing why Jesus is fully God here?
     
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    John 1:3 says, "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
    So where John 1:14 says, ". . . was made flesh, . . ." John 1:3 says how.
     
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    what has this got to do with the OP?
     
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    What has that inaccurate statement have to do with your OP? That the main accuracy to your statement is the Father, Son of God and Holy Spirit are the one and the same God and God is Spirit, John 4:24.
     
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    Right now God exists as 3 distinct persons, correct?
     
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    Right now? So why do you believe God was not always the Trinity of Persons?
     
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    The Thessalonian church was a strong and flourishing one, composed of Gentiles rather than of Jews.
    1 Thessalonians 1:1-4, ". . . unto the church of the Thessalonians . . . Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. . . ."
     
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    I was just trying to make sure that you are not into either Modulaism or Oneness!
     
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    So are you saying Paul taught in the streets? This is not what scripture says. It was Paul's custom to teach in the synagogues What proof do you have that backs up your claim that most of the people in the church were Gentiles in a synagogue no less. Does this mean that the synagogue was full of Gentiles? We have to remember that Jews did not socialize with Gentiles. We were considered unclean
    Still they do not like to socialize with Gentiles.
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    Based on what?
     
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    Based on what?

    Thessalonica was a gentile church.

    Romans 11:13, "For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: . . ."

    2 Timothy 1:11, "Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles."
     
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    How you tend to phrase descriptions of God at times!
     
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