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Featured Can We Trust The Holy Bible Today? Part 2

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by SavedByGrace, Dec 30, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    He would had to speaking to Pontious Pilate I thought?
     
    #21 Yeshua1, Dec 30, 2020
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    this could have been through an interpreter
     
    #22 SavedByGrace, Dec 30, 2020
  3. Yeshua1

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    True, just thought more natural for Jesus to converse with a Roman, as he probably would have learned enough to speak to them
     
    #23 Yeshua1, Dec 31, 2020
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    Pilate would have most likely known Greek. I do not think it is reasonable to think that the Jewish leaders knew Hebrew, Greek, and Latin but the Romans did not understand Greek (which was a very common language of the day).
     
    #24 JonC, Dec 31, 2020
  5. Yeshua1

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    Makes sense, so Jesus probably knew then Aramiac and Hebrew fluently, and Koine Greek enough to converse?
     
    #25 Yeshua1, Dec 31, 2020
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    I would think that Jesus knew Greek fluently. The Jewish culture had been exposed to Hellenistic culture for centuries prior to Christ. After Alexander the Great they had been under both Ptolemaic and Seleucid rule. While some rejected Hellenistic culture, others embraced it. Either way the culture had a great impact on the area and the people.
     
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    I have no doubt that Jesus knew and knows every language there is, fully!
     
    #27 SavedByGrace, Dec 31, 2020
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    He would have had the Holy Spirit give that knowledge to Him when and if needed, no doubt!
     
    #28 Yeshua1, Dec 31, 2020
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    I agree, but I do not know that this was the case when He was on earth. That would be an interesting discussion (perhaps more not "what" Jesus knew but "how" Jesus knew it) as Scripture indicates that He grew and learned. I do not know that I can reconcile this with Jesus also being God (it is difficult, to say the least, to think that God became man and was "tempted in all points as we are").
     
    #29 JonC, Dec 31, 2020
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    Huh? Jesus Christ IS ALWAYS ALMIGHTY GOD! And while on earth 100% God and 100% Man, The GOD-MAN!
     
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    humanly speaking. Jesus as God always knows all things. His Person as God-Man is a Great Mystery.
     
    #31 SavedByGrace, Dec 31, 2020
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    This would be a good topic. I disagree (humanly speaking, we could say Jesus as God is all powerful....but we see Jesus not relying on His power but that of the Father via the Spirit). This would be a good thread (and a good discussion).
     
    #32 JonC, Dec 31, 2020
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    agreed, but also he chose to limit His understanding while here as that God man!
     
    #33 Yeshua1, Dec 31, 2020
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    Sorry, you will never reconcile to your guilty consciences the mutually exclusive claims of imperfect Bibles that are perfectly trustworthy.
     
    #34 George Antonios, Jan 2, 2021
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    It is a proven fact that the 1611 edition of the KJV is an imperfect edition and translation of the Bible.

    Would you suggest that the 1611 edition of the KJV is not trustworthy because of its actual imperfections and errors?

    It is a proven fact that the 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV is an imperfect edition of the Bible.

    Do KJV-only advocates have guilty consciences from their bearing false witness against Bible believers who disagree with human, non-scriptural KJV-only reasoning/teaching?
     
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    are you suggesting that the KJV is completely error free? that it has not human copyists errors? no grammatical errors? no textual errors? That it is perfect and as Inspired as the Original Autographs? If you say yes to these, then sadly brother you are greatly deceived!
     
    #36 SavedByGrace, Jan 2, 2021
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    Inspiration does not always follow in the same set of tracks.

    Whatever language and words were Written on Moses' Tablets referring to, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is no less INSPIRED than God Saying to you, "Don't Murder".....

    "Don't Murder" is God Speaking by Inspiration Eternal.
     
    #37 Alan Gross, Jan 2, 2021
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    The Hebrew verb "ratsach" used in Exodus 20:13, actually means, "murder, slay, with premeditation". So the reading of the KJV, "kill", is not alltogether correct.
     
    #38 SavedByGrace, Jan 2, 2021
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