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Featured Robert Dick Wilson on the Pentateuch

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by rlvaughn, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. rlvaughn

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    To be sure whether I understand your “yes,” let me pursue with the following example.

    So then are you meaning something like this? Moses originally under inspiration wrote (not in English obviously) in Genesis 14:14 (as) “And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Kalamabara.” Then, when I later editor copied it out, he was inspired of God to think something like, “Oh, we now call Kalamabara Dan,” so that should be changed to “And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan.” Is this in the realm of what you are thinking? Thanks.

    P.S. This question is also to anyone who wishes to address the issue of this type of possible edits to the original writings. Thanks.
     
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    Yes. Exactly.
     
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    I was asked about this in a message, so I thought I should clarify. I made Kalamabara up for discussion purposes. If the original was not Dan, I have no way of knowing what it was. So I made up a name to use for an example. I started to put Kalamazoo, but decided that seemed too silly.
     
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    Thanks. Does such a view, in your opinion, challenge the idea that only the original autographs were inspired?
     
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    No it does not in my view.
     
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    "The Holy Spirit had the writers put down exactly what he intended them to say, but does he do same with editors?"
     
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    Yes, it is possible. Of course I don't really know, but if our final form of the books have the hands of editors, then I would say that God used them to shape the final form just as he wanted. Again, I don't really know for sure that he used editors in that capacity. But it is possible.
     
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    As I mentioned earlier, I think, I cannot argue with God if he chose to do it that way. I am just not convinced that he did. I am not aware of any text that indicates we should read something as an update, but more just that we are reading stuff and thinking, "Why would Moses have written that; it sounds like somebody edited that in order to make it understandable in later context."
    I think it is important to distinguish Wilson's view from the Liberal view. In fact, in the context of what I quote above, he contrasts the conservative view with what he identifies as JEDHP, in which the Pentateuch and Joshua were compiled by a dozen or more redactors. What he is saying nowhere near approaches this liberal view. Nevertheless, I think he, Youngblood, Unger, et al., are buying into a mindset that we by our own resources can identify where someone other than Moses is speaking.
     
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    A quote attributed (IIRC) to Aristotle goes something like this: "When considering ancient writings, the benefit of doubt must always be given to the author, not arrogated to oneself by the critic."
     
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    Saying Moses wrote all but his own death would be vastly different than supporting the old documentary view of 4 separate authors over centuries!
     
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    Dr O T Allis' book The Five Books of Moses, is a very important work showing that Moses is the Author of all the 5 Books. Here is the publishers description:

    "Bible critics argued that the first five books of Scripture were not written by Moses, but were a later compilation from various conflicting sources by unknown authors and editors. Here Dr. Allis closely reexamines that critical theory and places before the reader the evidence for the unity and harmony of the five books of Moses"

    Five Books of Moses
     
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    Deuteronomy 34:9, ". . . And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses. . . ."
    Joshua 1:1-2, "Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying, Moses my servant is dead; . . ."
     
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    Yes, Joshua edited the postscript epilogue!
     
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