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Oh please.

1890, John Wilkinson books.google.com/books?id=gCjPyKwS1f0C&pg=PR7

"let the Word of God mean what He says; that is, if the plain and obvious sense make good sense seek no other sense"

 

Oh please. Just read, first my post, which said nothing about the 'essence' of Christ, and then Acts of the Apostles 1:11.
He left in a body which was 'flesh and bones' (Luke 24:39). He will return in the same manner. An invisible Jesus might have the same 'essence' but He would be a very different Jesus to the one who left. Why? Because no one could see Him.
He left visibly. 'As you saw Him go into heaven.' People saw that very Jesus returning into heaven; people will see Him return. Where are all the people who saw Him return in AD 70?
Clouds came over to obscure Him as He rose; clouds will part to reveal Him when He returns.

 

More slippery than mercury.

 

Did Jesus ascend to heaven in a body of flesh and bones? Yes or no?

 

Aren't we supposed to go by context and content? Aren't we supposed to see who was speaking and to whom they were speaking at that time, and for what reason? I don't believe we can arrive at a correct interpretation just by reading a verse by itself, at least not in all instances. We need to read the whole chapter, and if necessary, the whole book. It's also not a sin to look at commentaries and other translations of the Bible or a Bible dictionary for assistance. Many of today's church members ARE NOT Bible scholars, they have not been to Bible college or seminary and aren't equipped to just sit down and interpret Scriptures by themselves. They can if they compare Scripture with Scripture in many instances. But, even then I believe it's always wise to consider other sources available.

 

I think shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go demands it.
They saw a body of flesh and bones get received up.

 

The metaphoric Scriptures ALWAYS have a LITERAL meaning, and are obviously metaphoric. For instance, look at Rev. 17. It's obvious there are no critters with 7 heads & 10 horns, but at the end of the vision, the angel who showed it explains its meanings,

And certain metaphors always mean the same thing. For instance, a dragon is always Satan. A harlot(when used metaphorically) is always a or false church, while fornication, used likewise, is always idol, or false, worship.

Preterists have a habit of reducing literal "inconvenient" Scriptures to "metaphoric/symbolic" status to attempt to give some veracity to their doctrine, as 'taking' them literally proves their doctrine false.

 

Proverbs 24:6. 'In a multitude of counsellors there is safety.'

 

Luke 24:39 tells us specifically that He was in a physical body.
And trying to argue that a spiritual body (1 Corinthians 15:44) means no body at all doesn't work either. The clue is in the word: 'body' (Gk. soma). When we are born of the Spirit (John 3:6), it does not mean that we no longer have bodies.

 

This is obvious, as you state. We are born once in the flesh, and then we, when born again, are born of the Spirit. I believe Jesus had to explain that one to Zaccheus, didn't he? I find it strange that a person like Zaccheus, who should have been well versed in Scriptures, should have known the difference between the literal and Spiritual births. Could this mean that the "veil" was already over the eyes of the Hebrew children concerning the Gospel? I don't know if this would be the case or not, considering the number of people who were committing to following Christ and his teachings. But, It does raise some interesting possibilities.

 

I only know what you tell me.

And I am arguing that He was (Luke 24:39) and will be (Acts of the Apostles 1:11) in a physical body.

 

No. I don't forget. You keep prevaricating, and I keep pressing the facts.

'In like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.' In what possible sense can His return be 'in like manner' if no one can see Him? In fact, of course, 'every eye shall see Him' (Revelation 1:7).

You believe in a rapture that is already past? Fascinating! Is there any evidence that the saints in, say, Philippi, shed their physical bodies? I think we should be told.

Those alive at Christ's return will be changed 'in the twinkling of an eye' from their mortal bodies into a body like Christ's glorified body.

'Flesh and blood' is an expression meaning sinful humanity (Galatians 1:16; Ephesians 6:12). That is presumably why our Lord described His resurrection body as 'flesh and bones.'

This is your human reasoning. You have agreed that our Lord went up to heaven in a physical body. Where in the Scriptures does it say that He shed it at any point?

Acts of the Apostles 1:11 refutes Hyper-preterism, and so long as you continue to promote it on this board, I shall continue to present the verse.