Quoting vs "quoting"

Recently there has been a disagreements about what it means to quote another person.

For example, is it really quoting Trump to say he said Mexicans are "rapists". Now, the word was from Trump, but the context was changed for political purposes.

Here is a recent example:

A member quoted me as saying exactly the opposite of what my post communicated:

Removing a passage from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning is called contextomy. It is a fallacy in arguments.


My question is, aside from "technically the words are there" is it really quoting the other person.

 

That is a good point. What should be done? I think Scarlett is correct. People realize the fabrication. I think it is best to simply point out the error and refocus on what you said.

Allowing their post to stay is a testimony to the character, or lack of character, of the person fabricating.

 

I understand. You are wrong, but this is because of your assumptions.

There have been several discussions about this. People have been lifting quotes from members and assigning meaning to those words contrary to the original context.

 

No. What is prohibited is starting two threads about the sane topic. Members are free to quote from other threads. In fact, you have done this quite a few times.

Do you not see how the quote

is a fabrication since my actual comments say the exact opposite

Christians need to be men of character, men of integrity. Christians should stand for the truth.

I ask again, do you believe yourself an honest person?

This is not something you need to tell me, I can read the quote - just like everybody else - and discern integrity or a lack of integrity. It is something you need to consider for yourself.

 

I think I understand what you mean. Here is my quote in its entire context:

So what you read about my comments is that I am being responsible but Tom is not?

Is that what you are saying?

 

I do not want you banned. And I did nothing to shame you.

And no. First I said "I am vaccinated". Then my reason. Second I said Tom is not. Then his reason. I concluded by saying we are both responsible for our own health.


I posted a sincere post:

Here is how you quoted me:

How is that my fault.

Take responsibility for your actions. Don't blame other people, as if they forced you to misrepresent my post.

Consider as you read your words if you are an honest person. We're you being truthful? How does this exhibit Christ living in you? Are you a testimony of Truth? Or have you discredited your witness?

Look, I am in no way offended. What you do is your choice. How you post is your choice. We can all see and decide for ourselves.

I am only asking you to look at your post - how you "quoted" me - and ask yourself if you are an honest man.

 

No. I was saying one thing - people are being responsible for their health regardless of whether they accept or reject a vaccination.

Here is my post:

What you did is called contextomy.

Perhaps you acted out of ignorance. Perhaps you were just being dishonest. I don't know and I don't care.

If you had any questions you could have asked me, as I wrote the post I am uniquely qualified to explain anything you did not understand.

My post is there:

Your "quote" of me is there also:

Just let people read and decide for themselves.

 

I believe you are trying to justify yourself. You might as well stop.

I do not know what you are talking about when you say I have been editing and deleting your posts. I have not been.

I actually want your posts here, intact.

Like I said, I am not offended. Your actions speak loudly, but about you, not me.

This is what I said:

Here is how you "quoted" me:

There is really nothing you can say to negate the fact you fabricated rather than quoted.

Members and guests can read and discern for themselves. Ultimately it is your character at stake, not mine. Do whatever you want. Just consider whether you are an honest or a dishonest person. How does your words testify to your nature?

 

Your comment about me judging with a knife is....well...it is paranoid and strange.

If you have a problem with @Squire Robertsson then address him (don't just gossip).

And it is not your business if I "like" another members post.

All of this (these ramblings and accusations of yours) is just deflection from your quoting out of context (from your fabrication).

I posted this:

Here is how you "quoted" me:

That was wrong of you. Rather than recognize the error you first tried to justify taking my words out if context. Now you are just diverting attention by making false accusations and whining about me "liking" another members post.

I am not saying you should be a man and take responsibility for your actions. I am just observing how you used my words. You are what you are. It is not up to me to change another's character.