Testing the "Seven Times Purified Theory"

I am pro AV aka KJV. I know no good reason to read any KKVO books. While that may not mean there isn't any, I know no reason for me.

 

I ordered and read three of Bednar's books. There is a great deal of overlap in his three books with similar contents.

I do not agree with your opinion of Bednar's book Evidence of the Divine Hand on True Scripture. It does not present a positive, clear, consistent, sound, true, scriptural case for a modern KJV-only view. In much of it, he tries to justify renderings found in the KJV, but he fails to prove that the KJV is perfect. I would not consider it to be the best KJV-only book.

Lawrence Bednar referred to “KJV language up-dating, up to the final 1769 edition” (Evidence of the Divine Hand, p. 72; see also p. 276). Lawrence Bednar claimed that “the finalized KJB text is inerrant” and that “inerrancy will extent to the final authorized 1769 KJB edition” (Case, p. 102).

Bednar seems to be uninformed and misinformed about editions of the KJV as he believes assertions that are not true. The 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV was not the final edition of the KJV, and it was not inerrant. There were actual errors in the 1769 Oxford edition of the KJV. Some scholars indicate that there were over 100 errors in that 1769 edition. Present post-1900 KJV editions are not identical to the 1769 Oxford edition (except for one facsimile reprint of the 1769 Oxford in 2017).

One new error in the 1769 Oxford edition at Exodus 6:21 [the name of the wrong person Zithri taken from the last word of Exodus 6:22] remained in most Oxford and Cambridge editions for over 100 years until the 1873 Cambridge edition by Scrivener corrected it.

 

The "7 times purified" sub-doctrine is as false as the rest of the KJVO myth. The thing that's 7 times purified is the silver. That was the standard used for the silver of the tabernacle/temple instruments. And even by today's standards, that was pretty pure silver.

 

The truth is still that regardless if one teaches form a translation based off the Tr/MT or CT, its still same Holy Spirit that uses that word of the lord to save lost sinners with!

 

Sopreferred, how about the Nkjv?

 

It has its unique issues. Currently it is a primary modern translation I would suggest.

 

So does the KJV.

 

The 7x purified theory is just stupid. It breaks every rule of Biblical interpretation

 

It seems rather silly to me to believe the Psalm 12 is addressing the purification of the entire bible since there is a future Psa 13 as well as everything that follows after it, that is yet to be written.

6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

David is using a metaphor here. He is not saying the words have been tried in a furnace of earth, purified like silver seven times. He is not prophesying that they will be tried in the furnace of earth like silver. He is merely saying the words of the LORD ARE pure, and then he tells how pure they are. "Are" is present tense and therefore these verses are dealing with the context that has already been established in the previous verses. The prophecy he is dealing with here concerns a man who is to come whose actions are described in the Psalm and the LORD's action of "arising," a key word in this chapter, in response to him and his wicked work. It is the surety of the words that is in view and not necessarily the preservation of them.

Ps 3:7 Arise, O LORD; save me, O my God: for thou hast smitten all mine enemies upon the cheek bone; thou hast broken the teeth of the ungodly.
Ps 7:6 Arise, O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded.
Ps 9:19 Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.
Ps 10:12 Arise, O LORD; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.
Ps 12:5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

A theme is developed in the Psalms and Psa 12 is a continuation of the theme. David is a prophet and he is giving a prophecy concerning a man who is coming to oppress his people Israel in the future. There is more prophesy in the Psalms maybe than the prophets, at least end times prophecy.

Isa 2:19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
Isa 2:21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

The LORD'S arising is always future until the Revelation.

Ac 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Look at Psalm 12 as an end times prophesy that advances the theme of the LORD arising in his glorious appearing to finally deal with wicked men. I think that is how it should be viewed.

 

Thirteen psalms mentions Jesus arising to come to the rescue of the small remnant of Israel who are left and are about to perish under the destroying armies of the heathen. All are prayers for him to arise and come, except for two. The number 5 is the number for grace and in Psalm 12 is the 5th time the word appears. "Now I will arise" says God in verse 5. The number 12 is the number God uses for his perfect government which he establishes on earth when he arises. He arises from his Father's right hand where he has been seated for the last 2000 years. Number 7 is the number for complete things and the words of this generation are preserved forever and so the promise that he will arise and take care of business is sure. If someone thinks it is Israel that is being preserved, that is okay too, because both his promise and his people will be preserved and this promise will surely come to pass.

The number 13 is associated with gentiles and transgressiors. Remember, Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, he 13th apostle wrote 13 letters to the gentiles, who are transgressors. Many more instances can be cited. But, if you think these are mere coincidences and agree with none of the numbers, my point is that arguing that Ps 12:7 is speaking about the scriptures is a distraction. I am KJV only in my approach to the scriptures and to God and I think Psalm 12 has nothing to do with the preservation of all the words of God.

The theme continues after the 12th psalm.

Ps 17:13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:
Ps 44:23 Awake, why sleepest thou, O Lord? arise, cast us not off for ever.
Ps 44:26 Arise for our help, and redeem us for thy mercies’ sake.
Ps 68:1 « To the chief Musician, A Psalm or Song of David. » Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
Ps 74:22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.
Ps 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
Ps 102:13 Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come.
Ps 132:8 Arise, O LORD, into thy rest; thou, and the ark of thy strength.

Just for fun, here are the computer generated cross references for Psa 12:7. See what God commonly preserves.

Ps 16:1 « Michtam of David. » Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.
Ps 37:28 For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
Ps 37:40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
Ps 121:8 The LORD shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.
Ps 145:20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.
De 33:3 Yea, he loved the people; all his saints [are] in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; [every one] shall receive of thy words.
1Sa 2:9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
Isa 27:3 I the LORD do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest [any] hurt it, I will keep it night and day.
1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, [and] called:
Ps 10:18 To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.
Mt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

 

He didn't read his KJV too closely. He missed that little word "as", which shows Dave was COMPARING God's words to 7-times-purified silver. In those days, silver & other molten metals was purified by skimming the surface of the melt with a wooden hoe-like tool, as the dross & slag always rose to the top. Doing that 7 times would produce a quite-pure silver, even by today's standards. This was the standard of the silver used to make the Tabernacle/temple instruments. It was the purest metal then known to man.
Dave assumed that silver was absolutely pure, so he compared God's words to it.