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The JWST Found Something You Wish It Hadn't

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by rockytopva, Nov 24, 2022.

  1. rockytopva

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    There was no Big Bang…
     
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    This is a recurring theme of the atheist Eric Lerner. However, he doesn’t seem to have much support from colleagues, and no support from evidence, including the JWST. Furthermore, his own hypotheses don't seem to be supported by the evidence.

    Do these recent JWST discoveries debunk the big bang? Not at all. There are many big bang creation models that predict exactly these discoveries. It’s even possible that the discoveries do not refute any big bang creation models. Billion-solar-mass compact galaxies in the universe may yet prove to be relatively rare. Likewise, large, well-formed spiral galaxies may prove to be relatively less abundant in the early universe than what the initial JWST images show. Such galaxies are the easiest ones to detect in the early universe. Therefore, we shouldn’t be surprised that they show up in the first JWST images of the early universe.

    James Webb Space Telescope: Initial Revelations
     
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    James Webb Space Telescope... Zooming in only to find more galaxies!
     
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    I suspect that neither the steady state or big bang explanation are the correct explanations for our human observations of our created universe. I suspect it has a beginning per Genesis 1:1 and an end per Psalms 102:26, Revelation 20:11, Revelation 21:1. Being such our observable distant universe is both older than the calculared 13.7 billion years and no longer exists as currently seen, in that, when Christ appears in His second appearing, our universe will be on its last 1000 years per Revelation 20:1-11.
     
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    1 Corinthians 2: 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    Brother Glen:)
     
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    Where do you get the idea that our universe will end? Revelation 20 doesn't seem to say that at all.
     
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    Good question
     
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    2 Peter 3:10-13 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
     
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    When Christ appears, this present heavens and earth will be finished, see 2 Peter 3:10-13.
     
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    Two things. What is 2.5 million light years away may not even now exist anymore. Secondly what is in 2 Peter 3:10-13 takes place according to Revelation 20 and 21.
     
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    The universe is going to be replaced. The old being removed at the judgement, ". . . the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. . . ." And then the new, ". . . a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; . . ."
     
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    At first I thought JWST meant: Jehovah's Witness Street Thug

    Carry on...
     
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