Masons? Good or bad?

Well I could never be one based on what I know...

BUT...
One of the best pastors I ever had was a mason, along with a couple good deacons...

 

YIKES

 

http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/apologetics/AP4W0301.pdf

DOCTRINAL SUMMARY

God: Unitarian, deistic, pantheistic; The Grand Architect of the Universe (GAOTU); variously
defined and incorporated with pagan elements.

Jesus Christ: A supremely good man who understood divine [Masonic] truth.

Salvation: By personal character: good works and individual merit.

Sin: Character flaws, ignorance of spiritual [Masonic] reality, i.e., a flaw in human nature
which men are able to correct through Masonic enlightenment.

Man: Flawed but not sinful in a biblical sense; potentially divine, however all non-Masons
exist in spiritual darkness.

The Bible: A symbol of the divine will, not to be taken literally.

Afterlife: Universalistic.

 

The Rev Billy Graham plus other well known preachers are in the highest degree. They are 33 degree masons. Go on the internet and try finding, "The 33degree initiation and read all about it. Pat Robinson wrote about the Masons and that although Marx and Engle was present when the communist manafasto was written. They themselves was not the writers. it was a secret who the writers are. It was in the book that Pat Robinson wrote, "New World Order." You may be able to buy this book on the internet.
Occult theocracy by Lady Queensbury, a book that is out of print stated the same thing about marx and Engle not being the authors. Freemason and interipation I think is the right name of the book will enlighten you. Captain William Morgan wrote a book about the masons in the lower degrees and he was done away by the Masons by taking him out in a boat, tied a large rock to him and threw him into the Niagara river, I think, it may have been another river. When one of the masons chosen to do the deed he repented of it on his deathbed, which caused a lot of masons to leave the Lodge, and you will not find this in any late edition of a history book bur I have c aopy of a grade school history copywrited in 1922. It is in the history book that after that happened it has mention of the anti-mason party law that stripped any mason to be affiliated in some of the government of that day. In the lower degrees of Masonry, they are good people, but it get powerful in the upper masonic degrees.

 

dan e.

Theres lots of information about the masons,they are not good, they may preform good works, but anyon thinking thats how they are going to heaven would try to do as much good works as they can. They do not consider Jesus diety, not God in the flesh.
I once saw on the John Ankerberg show, back when it was available in our area, they did a series on masonry, lead by this man who was once really high up in the masons. According to him, they don't just use the bible as their holy book. It depends on the predominate religion of the area any one particular temple is located. If the are is a muslin area they use the koran as their holy book, not the bible. Seems right, since they do not preach the bible or anything other then mason teachings, which are not bible based. I beleive I had recorded that series, but thats been a long time, and I don't think I still have it, wish I did.
http://www.godonthe.net/cme/links/masons.htm

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/masons.htm

LOL, this one is about those 'goofy symbols'
http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/masons/mrituals.html

 

BAD – and here is why:

I have for years heard all the pagan and Satanist arguments against the Masons and don’t believe a word of it. Are there Masons that have been Satanists or pagans or whatever? Sure there have, but there have also been Masons that were fine Christians. They were not Christians because they were Masons and in many cases were Christians in spite of being Masons.

I have known plenty of Masons and Shriners in my life and was invited to join but declined. My reason at the time was because they were a secret society and I felt that as a preacher my life should be an open book. Their hospitals and humanitarian work are incredible. They are fantastic giving organizations. I played in a sporting event that benefited the Shriner hospital in Atlanta once upon a time and got to tour that place and see the work they were doing. All without ever asking for a dime from the families. Great stuff.

But overall I would have to say bad, and here is why:

Most Masons and Shriners I have known liked to party with their Mason buddies and most of that involved large amounts of alcohol (Remember the Ray Stevens song?). Ok that is bad enough, but here is the real reason I don’t like the Masons. They are a pseudo religious organization that fills that gap in men’s lives. Many a middle aged man has looked at his life and realized that something was missing. He may be successful at work and family but he realizes that there is a huge void in his life. The gap of course is the lack of a relationship with God. So they run out and join the Masons. They don’t have to change their lives. They get an excuse to drink and party. Yet at the same time they are tied into this fantastic charity. They are helping the children and giving back to those in need. And this makes them feel better about themselves. They of course are still lost, but now they feel much better about that.

By masking over men’s symptoms and leaving the soul in a lost condition I believe that the Mason’s have contributed to the damnation of many men. Good (in our view anyway) well intentioned sincere men, but lost men.

Anyway, that’s MHO.

 

This was interesting, while looking for information to post here, found this list of famous masons,
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htm

 

My whole family, going back to my Great-Grandparents, have been mambers of the Masons. I was a member of DeMolay, and was a member and officer of the local Masonic Lodge.


I was a member for about 10 years before I was saved. After I was saved my eyes were opened to their hyprocrisy. The apply certain moral values to symbols, and even say the John the Baptist and John the Evangelist were supporters of Masonry. What a joke.


They are indeed cult-like and their teachings either make you want to laugh or vomit. I'm still friendly with several members of the Masons, they know my beliefs and I know theirs. They don't talk to me about Masonry and they aren't interested in my beliefs. So we generally get along fine.

 

http://www.plim.org/Freemasonp1.htm



:godisgood:

 

Your quotes about having your throat cut, and "having your body severed in twain" are indeed oaths that are made in Masonry.


As for being in fear of physical harm from the Masons, I took their oaths to be symbolic as are most of the teachings. As far as I know the laws concerning Assault and Battery also apply to Masons. I think the danger of harm for revealing secrets comes from many years ago, and isn't actively followed today.

 

Masons

There is a banner for Leather Gloves for Masons on this site......what's up with that??????????????????????? This is the first time I've seen this!

 

A lot of websites will claim celebrities were 33rd degrees masons at the drop of a hat without any proof to back up their claims. Many celebrities listed as masons actually were not. Anyone can publish anything on the internet without having any proof to back up their claims. I highly doubt that Billy Graham is a 33rd degree mason. I have only found websites that claim he is, but no proof to back it up. Many celebrities are just masons so they can be apart of a charitable organization.

 

You are quiet read up on the Masons. On the first page of Albert Pikes Book Called 'Morals and Dogma, He says, I don't have the book right in front of me but I have the book to where I can get it and read it word by word, so here goes "The blind force of the people is a force that must be economised and is to be controled." what about that, We are blind, huh1" and in the book 'by Lady Quensbourgh Occult Theology" Which I also have pretty handy, Albert Pike also says. Yes it is true that the initives have a GOD But we worship Lucifer the God of Light, also the christains worship ADANAYE(?) spelling. because there is no light without darkness. This is quoited by my memory and is not punctully the right quoit, but if anyone be interested in the real quote, contact me and I will go getr the book?s and quote it word for word.

 

Yes according to the sdeath od William Morgan. They drowned him in the Niagara river.
And in the upper degrees, yes these are bad people. They will have you killed if they won't too.

 

Na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na! :cry: You are about to enter the Twightlight Zone! Here's what's wrong with that -- they will undiscerningly believe anything they're told they need to believe to "progress." I don't believe there is any other way to see it. If they work their ways through the "degrees," they're no better than Obama going to Pastor Wright's church for 20 years!

skypair

 

Na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na! :tear: You are about to enter the Twightlight Zone!

Here's what's wrong with that "picture" -- they will undiscerningly believe anything they're told they need to believe to "progress." I don't believe there is any other way to see it. If you don't have that discernment yourself, well,... If they work their way through the "degrees," they're no better than Obama going to Pastor Wright's church for 20 years!

skypair

 

In Christian countries, they act like they are for Christianity and get many professing Christians to join. In Muslim countries, the Lodges have Korans as the "sacred book." Although they claim that they are not a religion, they do have religious teachings that are contrary to Christianity and teach that one progresses by good works and secret knowledge.

I don't think they are a genuinely ancient group though they claim it. I think the teachings that came into Masonry in the past few centuries were from a wide variety of occult Gnostic type beliefs and this is what their foundation is.

I've read some of Albert Pike and the beliefs in that book are genuinely evil - reminded me a lot of some of the more esoteric beliefs you can find in Alice Bailey and other Theosophists/occultists.

There are Christian websites composed of ex-masons:
Ex-Mason for Jesus
http://www.emfj.org/

Eph. 5:11 (name of ministry)
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/

I think there are at least 2 more ministries like this.

Unfortunately, the Masons have infiltrated the SO Baptist Church pretty well. This has kept the SBC from outright denouncing Freemasonry (as far as I know). The closest they came to it was several years ago when they pointed out concerns with it and how some of its teachings are incompatible with Christianity.

However, their Interfaith Witness Dept has a good article on masonry:
http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.2950171/k.A6A3/Freemasonry.htm

This gives their links to further info:
http://www.4truth.net/site/c.hiKXLbPNLrF/b.2904369/k.A8AF/Freemasonry.htm

 

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