Featured How does your Church deal with Child professions of Faith?

do they really ?
what is your take on what good and evil is?

 

This kind of thinking is the reason man has brought God down to a humanistic level and taken away a God that is perfectly complete in Himself and don't need man or circumstances to control his own sufficiency and set up a God that is subject to the frowns of the creature.

 

She had to be baptized at camp which she agreed to because she has always been a big eater.

 

Are we better than Paul?
(1Co 13:11) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

We have no record of Christ speaking in the temple before he was 12. Luke 2:42-49 Did not Christ come as our example in all things.


And the damsal in Mark chapter 5:38-43 is 12.

Give me scripture where it can be any younger than 12.

 

Really? This is your argument? From silence?

Paul was thrown off a horse by Christ...were you?p

Are you claiming Jesus did not understand His gospel until 12?

How many people today are healed by touching clothing?

What is this mystical age of 12? Sounds new ageish to me...and quite legalistic. I'm glad my God does not save based on some numerology formula.

Besides, the Israelites who entered the promised land were 19. Kind of throws a monkey wrench into this extrabiblicsl false doctrine

 

It means everything in two way's, now he is born from above, He has a new nature, old things have passed away, he not only has repented but he has a repenting nature. Sin nailed his saviour to the cross so therefore he hates sin. It also matters because his Father has a chastening rod and he will use it if necessary. The Father is conforming him in Christ's image all the while as clay in the potters hands. God is never so out of control as to become sad.

 

Some of you are in direct violation of Matthew 19:14.

Not exactly sure where you can find a milstone.

 

I don't think anyone is against training up a child in the way it should go by teaching them as their minds develop's. But you don't re-locate a child in elementary school to a university and expect them to understand the math. When Christ called the little children to him and said, of such is the kingdom of heaven he was talking about their child like personalities that any age christian should have, like meekness, in-offensive, very trusting, humble, without pride, free from malice, no desires of grandeur ect.

 

Good point! :thumbsup:

 

My home association has it in their "practice and procedures" that any one pre-teen is to be taken under watchcare for six months, and after those six months, if there's evidence of a true conversion, they are then baptized. I actually like, and agree, with it.

 

You might have a point if the gospel message needed a college degree to understand. You don't. Its simple enough a child can understand it. I did.

Equating the gospel to college math is just plain silly. Jesus specifically commanded NOT to discourage and prevent little children from coming to Him. The reason being children haven't been hardened at that point and trust freely.

 

there is a big difference between knowing about jesus and knowing jesus though!

And many have 'asked him into their hearts", but walked away later on, and never were saved to start!

Think hjust a reminder to continue doing what you are doing, in raising your family up in fear and admonition of the Lord!

 

In the gospel of Luke 18:15-16 the scripture brings it out more clearly who these children were. They were infants brought to Jesus for him to touch them. By now Christ had gained a following by the miracles he had performed and these people that brought the infants were not unlike the Catholics of today that are in hopes the pope will touch their infants as he goes about in public, blessing the people. The disciples didn't rebuke the infants but rebuked the people that brought the infants. Was they bringing the infants to be saved ? of course not. Jesus took this opportunity to teach his disciples if a person comes unto Him he must come as humble as a little child, as trusting as a little child. Someone said the gospel is simple. What makes the gospel not simple doesn't have anything to do with the gospel itself. It has to do with the person hearing the gospel. As a example the law is just holy and good, Rom 7:12. There is nothing wrong with the law, so why couldn't man keep the law? Because of the weakness of man's flesh, Rom 8:3. Even though the gospel may be simple, our nature is such that it rebell's against all authority other than our own. A person has to be brought to the end of himself before he will recieve Christ. I went to high school with a lady and she said she was saved when she was three years old. My youngest grandson is four years old and starting T-Ball. When he is on the field that is his world. Off the field he is in other worlds like Spider Man and all things that get's four year olds attention. I just can't comprehend children three, four and five years old going through conviction of sin, when they don't really understand what sin is.

 

Nothing in the context alludes to the children being infants. If anything you are contradicting what you have said regarding trust as infants cannot consciously trust anything. The point Jesus was making is the fact children are not openly hardened at that point. The Gospel is simple due to this fact. For an adult it is difficult to submit, but not to a child.

Your argument consisting of a child's interests is also moot as this also pertains to adults.