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Yes I quite agree....what does he mean by Limited Atonement? If you said that you believe that the efficacy & power of Christs atonement is "Limited" then ......

But to your point Rippon, that is NOT what a Monergist believes....rather its Particular Atonement they subscribe to.

 

It is good to be wary of ALL calvinism. not just hyper...

 

Indeed. Most Calvinists will tell you that Christ's sacrifice was not sufficient -- nor should it have been -- for the "whole world" but only for the elect. However, neither Calvin nor the Council of Dort ever affirmed that view. Both, in fact, state that the atoning work of Christ should be understood in judicial terms and it had a double intent. That is to say, Christ died with a purpose concerning the provision of his atoning work and a purpose concerning the application of that work. The first represents the universal sufficiency of Christ’s atoning work, and the second represents the effective application of that work in the salvation of the elect. In this view, the atonement is conceived in judicial (rather than pecuniary -- or atonement, ransom, etc.) terms. Jesus died to make perfect satisfaction for all human sin. bearing the curse of the law and of the Father’s wrath against sinners, so that God can justly vindicate all to whom the benefits of Christ’s death are then applied.

John Calvin drew his inspiration for outlining his concept from the Council of Dort, and his students later created the five points. Contrary to popular belief, Calvin did not write those points, and probably wouldn't completely agree with them. They were formulated by his students after his death, and their hyper-enthusiasm tended to make them misrepresent what their mentor taught.

 

Many years ago I held to calvinism. I was absolutly convinced it was the better way to go theolgically.

But in time I came to see that I was dead wrong.

I do not concider calvinists to be lost or a cult. I have no dought they are brothers and sisters in Christ

But the calvinist theology is great error in my opinion.

 

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TND: you made some puzzling remarks.
"John Calvin drew his inspiration for outlining his concept from the Council of Dort..."

Calvin died in 1564. Dort took place over several months between 1618 and 1619. So Calvin didn't draw any inspiration from something that happened decades after his death.

Then you said: "And his students later created the five points."

As I said,Calvin died in 1564. The Synod of Dort was more than a half century later. If any of his students were alive during that Synod they would have been at least in their mid-seventies.

Perhaps you meant the word "students" in another way.

And to call the Canons of Dort merely the five points is silly.

 

Thank You :thumbs:

 

how about 'hyper free will?"

 

But that sames to be more prevelent in baptist circles than Hyper cal is!