Featured Non-Cals prayer for Non-Believers

That is only so if a man's praying for the lost is arbitrary and not previously interrelated to what God will do in a man's heart.

In some sense, an Arminian can agree with the Calvinist that God has pre-destined the MEANS as well as the salvation of the elect. Not in the same way...

But enough such that God is able to both "do all he can" and also work through the prayers of the Saints as well. The prayers of the saints aren't arbitrary while God's choice to call all men isn't. An Arminian would likely assume they work in perfect harmony with one another, even if they aren't positive how exactly God does so.

 

Up to seven pages now and still no one is asserting what scripture says about praying for the lost. Are we to test God, please God, soften the heart of so and so. Or are we to pray, please God help me boldly proclaim your gospel and be an effective witness. Has no one actually read God on this topic?

 

I pray that God will save them. Salvation is of God!

 

I didn't know the bible said anything about praying for the lost, please share the scriptures.

 

"But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you
Matthew 5:44 NAS77

Bless those who persecute you; bless and curse not.
Romans 12:14 NAS77

 

Amen! :thumbsup:


Now, you asked how a non-cal prays for the lost. Well, we have Paul as an example.

 

Can you please rephrase the above? I have no idea what you are saying here.

 

No you don't because Paul was a Calvinist.:laugh:

 

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Define lost please......does it mean reprobate or does it mean not regenerated yet?

 

We are still left with the unpleasant truth that God is not planning to have all sinners saved by his grace and mercy, that He had determined who those are, and that the classic Arminian doctrine would imply that He wants/desires and has provided the means needed to save all, but he lives that ultimate choice with the vaunted "free will!"

 

If you tell a sinner about jesus, one who has not been saved yet by God, do you pray that God would open them up to receive and act upon what they heard?

 

Apparently everyone posting believes the one and only verse that addresses praying for the lost is Romans 10:1. So nothing else God said bears on the topic! Good Golly Miss Molly. Talk about wandering stars.

News flash, we must consider every, repeat every, statement God makes on the topic before we assert that testing God by asking Him to unilaterally save others is in the name of Jesus.

 

Arminian prayers usually involve the phrase "my will be done", either in word or in sentiment.

 

You need to get out more JDF! What ever brand of Arminians you're surrounded by must be half a bubble off level. I don't know of any that stumble over "Thy will be done..." in the Lord's prayer.

You might be surprised to know there are Arminians that can read these words in James and offer a hearty AMEN!

James 4:13-15 NAS77
13 Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow, we shall go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit."
14 Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away.
15 Instead, you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we shall live and also do this or that."