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You are correct! Denying the inerrancy of the Bible allows people to pick and choose what they wish and the Bible simply becomes that, a Wishbone!

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I believe that the Church of Rome, the Orthodox, the Anglicans, and the Lutherans all believe in Baptismal Regeneration. I don't believe that the Church of Christ teach Baptismal Regeneration but they believe that Baptism is essential to salvation:

But then the Church of Christ has the same heresy as the Church of Rome:

However Alexander Campbell, the founder of the Church of Christ, {They were called Campbellites by some, especially Baptists} threw a "clod in the churn" so to speak when He wrote the following>

 

Then you can become a "cafeteria style Christian"...:tear:

 

Well said and reasonably said!

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Agreed!:thumbs:

 

You are contradicting yourself, first you say baptised babies are not part of the church then afterwards you say they are part of the New covenant church. So much deception by padeo's.

Also, you know that some of those babies are goats but you baptise them all, padeobaptism is foolishness.

 

You need to reread what he said.

 

Robert, R-E-A-D what I wrote.

 

Thank you.

 

You're welcome. :wavey:

At first I was concerned because my name is also Robert... I thought the "R-E-A-D" was directed to me and I somehow totally misread something. lol

 

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Please stop with the deceptions.

You said the baptised babies are covenant children, what are they a covenant of??

 

Did I say that, Robert, or was I referring to another group that believes that? Mmm? You have reading comprehension problems.

 

IF they disagreed with the scriptures on this issue, always go with what the Apostles wrote to us, as they ALONE were inspired by God!

And paul, chief proponent of how to get saved under this new covenant, seemed to feel that faith in jesus ALONE was fully sufficient to save us!

 

Don't be so sure. Check out John 3:5 and Mark 16:16.

 

Does your place of fellowship baptise babies? If yes, are those babies part of your New Testament Covenant Church?

I need to probe and pry, because my experience with Padeo's is that they are very deceptive with that subject.

 

NEITHER verse support sacramentalism provided by means of water baptism though, as that is something Rome read back into the texts!

 

Mark 16:16 - Jesus said "He who believes AND is baptized will be saved." Jesus says believing is not enough. Baptism is also required. This is because baptism is salvific, not just symbolic. The Greek text also does not mandate any specific order for belief and baptism, so the verse proves nothing about a “believer’s baptism.”
John 3:5 - unless we are "born again" of water and Spirit in baptism, we cannot enter into the kingdom of God. The Greek word for the phrase "born again" is "anothen" which literally means “begotten from above.” See, for example, John 3:31 where "anothen" is so used. Baptism brings about salvation, not just a symbolism of our salvation

 

"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven."


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#1 Water and Spirit: are used to express the out pouring of God's spirit (Isa 32:15, 44,3; Ezek 36:25-27) used as symbol of the gift of God's Spirit in anointing of kings and priests (Joel 2:28,29) Water and Spirit is a symbolic of Spirit cleansing and renewal.
#2 Christian baptism: this wasn't even instituted yet, which would make it meaningless to Nicodemus.
#3Johns baptism: Jesus no where makes John's baptism requirement for salvation.

#1 is is the only option that makes sense.

Romans 10 " .."if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved." No mention of baptism.

Paul seems to disagree with baptism being necessary for salvation.