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Featured Caucus and vote .... a BB first!?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. HankD

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    Huh?
    The question was who do you think will win not who do I want to win.
    I have a suspicion that Rubio will win because he is the fair-haired boy of the"establishment".

    HankD
     
  2. poncho

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    I was being facetious Hank.
     
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    This is a first. He's found a way to do a polless poll.Laugh
     
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  4. InTheLight

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    Ha ha! LOL! I totally missed that. Good catch.
     
  5. HankD

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    Oh, OK.

    HankD
     
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    Uh, you don't know a lot about Ted Cruz, do you!

    Princeton.

    Harvard Law.

    Clerked for several federal judges.

    Clerked for Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist.

    Private practice as an attorney in Texas.

    Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission.

    Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice.

    Solicitor General of Texas. Argued before the Supreme Court regarding cases involving the state of Texas. (Longest-serving Solicitor General in Texas history. )

    Adjunct professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin.

    Taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.

    Back to private practice.

    Elected to the US Senate from Texas in 2012 with 56% of the vote.
     
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  7. poncho

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    Married to Goldman Sachs and the Council on Foreign Relations has a neocon's who's who list of policy advisers including

    Chad Sweet

    Infogram’s biography of Chad Sweet includes the following associations, demonstrating that he is very much a step in the “same direction”:

    With a diverse background, starting as Director of the CIA, Chad Sweet went into the world of big banks — from Investment Banker at Morgan Stanley to VP with Goldman Sachs. He would then work for the Department of Homeland Security in the Bush Administration. Currently he is the Co-Founder of Chertoff Group.

    Sweet cofounded Chertoff Group with former Bush and Obama administration Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. Hardly the pedigree of an outsider. In fact, his neocon bona fides could not be better.

    As a leader of the Chertoff Group, Sweet “advocated for expanding NSA metadata collection.” Again, this belies Ted Cruz’s public position on the NSA’s unconstitutional surveillance of Americans.

    Victoria Coates

    As was the case with Chad Sweet, Coates’s connections with the neocon elite are strong and numerous. From Infogram’s bio:

    Having served as director of research for former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and as an adjunct fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Coates has a track record of supporting a neoconservative foreign policy. In 2012, she was an advisor to Rick Perry, whose campaign was in support of sending troops back into Iraq.

    This record of rubbing shoulders with a who’s who of neocon luminaries cannot be comfortable for the constitutionalist wing of the Cruz camp.

    James Woolsey

    The Infogram bio is enough evidence to convict Woolsey of being neocon to the core:

    Woolsey was a national security specialist and former Director of the CIA under the Clinton administration. He heads up many Neoconservative groups including being the Chairman of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and Founding Member of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

    More than just academic advocacy of the military-industrial complex and the global deployment of American troops to force democracy on the world, Woolsey has no problem putting the noose around those who act against the growth of the government.

    Elliot Abrams

    While the CFR is the most notorious of the associations of Abrams, it isn’t the only one. He is also a member (or former member) of the Center for Security Policy, Hudson Institute, National Endowment for Democracy, and many more.

    In fact, it is probably the experience of all these people that compelled Ted Cruz to choose them to be his closest advisors. The problem isn’t that his inner circle is composed of men and women of vast foreign policy experience; the problem is that their experience is in growing government, supporting surveillance, and using American troops as global peacekeepers. As constitutionalists know, each of these endeavors — pursued over and over by Cruz’s chosen advisors — is unconstitutional and not at all consistent with Ted Cruz’s public statements.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ruz-s-closest-counsellors-are-neocon-cfr-vips

    Don't look now but Ted's been "neoconned".

    If you like more war, more debt, more government and less freedom. Ted's yer guy.
     
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    Actually he is not married to either GS or CFR. He is married to Heidi Cruz. She is an investment manager at Goldman Sachs. She has a B.A. in Economics and International Relations from Claremont McKenna College and an MBA from Harvard Business School.

    Part of my investment portfolio is managed by the Houston office of GS where she is the Regional Head for the Southwest Region in the Investment Management Division. She is doing a great job. She is presently on a leave of absence without pay during her husband's campaign.
     
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  9. poncho

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    That's great TC with her husband as PM she'll probably get a big promotion come the next round of banker bailouts because her employer is too big to fail. Cool

    Can you imagine Ted coming home from a hard day at the oval office and saying to his wife sorry Honey I have to put your bosses in jail this time around or the peasants will revolt? Laugh

    Hey didn't you tell me one time you were a classical liberal?
     
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    Hello P
    Hello Poncho. Who do you support?
     
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    Not who but what.

    I support the constitution, individual liberty, sound money, smaller government, a strong defense and our national sovereignty.



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    So you don't vote? They don't put "what" on the ballot.
     
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    Sure they do. Tell me what you vote for? And I'll tell you "what" they put on the ballot.
     
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    I have to admit that these days I'll just vote for anyone who's last name is not Clinton, Sanders, Obama, Bush, or Christi.
     
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    Those are all who's I asked you what you vote for.
     
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    Yea, you caught me trying to avoid your question. I vote fore the 10th amendment and the Convention of States. Now you're going to say that they aren't represented on the ballot, right?
     
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    That'll be my man Rand Paul.
     
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    Meet Marco Rubio’s Far-Right Neocon Donors
    "This billionaire bestiary is pushing ultra-hawkish and retrograde policies that are repellent to most Americans."

    Rubio and WW3
    (end times doomsday types are excited over the prospect of Rubio)
     
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    Yes, but I seriously doubt you know what that means. Go ahead and Google it. I will wait.
     
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