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Featured Obama leaving with high approval rating

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    I have high approval of his leaving, too.
     
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  3. Yeshua1

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    Just shows that people are very gullible!
     
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    Wonder how real christians woul rate him?
     
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    Whatcha expect??? Obviously the closer he is to riding off into the sunset (I wish!!!) the higher his approval gets!!;);)
     
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    I wouldn't put any stock in any poll put out by CNN and WAPO. They're already been caught more than once doctoring their polls.
     
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    Real Christian probably rate him about 83,.45%
     
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    "Real Christians?"

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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...amples-goal-seek-strong-obama-approval-rating

    New ABC / WaPo Poll Uses "Oversamples" To Goal Seek Strong Obama Approval Rating


    Just one day after the bitter mainstreamers at ABC/WaPo and CNN used their "oversamples" of Democrats to rig polls showing an unprecedented unfavorable rating of the incoming President-elect (see "New ABC / WaPo Poll Shows Drop In Trump Favorability Courtesy Of Aggressive 'Oversamples'"), those same outlets have used those same methodologies to engineer stellar approval ratings for Obama...shocking.

    Just like yesterday's polls, both ABC / Wapo and CNN used an aggressive, 8-point "oversample" of Democrats to lavish praise on their chose party and candidate.

    Apparently, ABC / WaPo believes that only 23% of registered voters are Republican...

    ...while CNN stretched to 24% Republicans but still maintained their 8-point Democrat oversample by just adding more dems to the pool.

    A total of 1,000 adults were interviewed by telephone nationwide by live interviewers calling both landline and cell phones. Among the entire sample, 32% described themselves as Democrats, 24% described themselves as Republicans, and 44% described themselves as independents or members of another party
     
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    Would think those following the Bible would be less than 10%
     
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    Real ones , the ones saved and obeying the scripture. not those into just socialGospewl or members in a church, but not been born again!
     
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    Jesus preached a social gospel.

    34“Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

    41“Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44“Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45“Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46“These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

    Luke 6:31New International Version (NIV)

    31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    • "Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" Matthew 19:21
      • "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because He has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed." Luke 4:18
      • "So he replied to the messengers, Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.'" Luke 7:22 [ E-book: The Kingdom strikes back ]
      • "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys." Luke 12:33
      • "But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind." Luke 14:13



     
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    The doing good unto others is NOT the heart of the Gospel though, as that is the Cross!
     
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    So we are simply to discount what He taught?

    If the cross is the heart of what is important, what wasn't Jesus crucified as an infant. Why did the Gospel writers yammer on and on about what Jesus said and did instead of simply jumping to the cross?

    I don't like the over-emphasis on the recorded words of Jesus to the minimization of everything else that is popular in some circles ("red letter Christians"), but I think that too many Christians focus on certain passages in Paul's writings and completely ignore Jesus. Jesus was the greatest Teacher that ever walked the earth. He called (and calls) individuals to learn from Him and do His works. In fact, that is the basis of judgement at the end of the age (Matthew 25, Revelation 20:11-15, etc.).
     
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    So we ignore all that Jesus taught about how we treat others. Why isn't the cross mentioned in the final judgment?
     
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    The main truth is the Cross an resurrection though, s that is the message of the Gospel, not social works!
     
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    No, but we better make sure people get th eGospel tha saves them before the Gospel of social justice/works!
     
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    You have made the mistake of separating what you call "the Gospel of social justice/works" from the gospel of the cross. They are the same gospel and cannot be separated.

    If you take up your cross (die to yourself and enter into the life of Jesus), your message will encompass both. One of the great errors in Baptist and evangelical circles today is to assume that the gospel is an atonement transaction to get to "Heaven" that has nothing to do with Jesus calling people into discipleship and obedience. Jesus and Paul DID NOT teach different things. Paul's audience (already followers of Jesus) already know the message of Jesus, so they interpreted Paul's writings by Jesus. Paul would be horrified by the way people have perverted the gospel into a legalistic transaction that smacks of death insurance. If you are not serving others and striving for justice, you can know that you are not of Jesus.

    You are truly preaching another gospel if you ignore either the cross or doing good/justice.
     
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    If I preach/teach that th message ofte Gospel is atonement and social works on equal footing, that is indeed another Gospel! We need to be saved from our sins first before any good works to be done!
     
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    So if you were about to die from starvation and someone offered to feed you you would ask if they were saved and refuse to eat if they said that they did not believe in Christ or God?

    Are you a preacher of dip them and drop them?
    Are you concerned about the welfare of people, whether Christian or not?
     
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