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Churches Notice Higher Attendance Since Trump Election

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  1. Jerome

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    http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2017/03/01

    "Volunteers...started pushing open the sliding partitions in the back of the room at about 9:30 a.m. on a recent Sunday....a new normal for the nondenominational congregation: An overflow crowd for the mid-morning service wedged between the regular 8 a.m. gathering and an additional service pastors added to accommodate renewed interest in the church during the early months of President Donald Trump's America."

    "[The] executive director of the Interfaith Alliance of Colorado...doesn't know of any studies looking directly at attendance following the election, but anecdotally has heard growth stories"
     
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    I can envision a change of attitude concerning respect for Christian values, which Trump champions, making a difference in church attendance over time as these values are promoted more freely in our nation.
     
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    To say that Trump champions Christian values is more than laughable. It's heresy.
     
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    :eek: There was an upturn in attendance after the September 11th tragedy too. ;)

    Rob
     
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    Gives it lip service is more accurate.

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    What is the correlation? Why are people attending church at a higher level?
    I work in a very liberal community where many consider themselves Christians. They are going to church because Trump scares them. They see him as a fascist who is out to destroy them.
    In reading the article, I sense the congregations being looked at are generally liberal.
     
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    Churches Notice Higher Attendance Since Trump Election

    Church attendance rose after the September 11th attacks, if I remember correctly.

    I would not draw any conclusions.
     
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    Apparently you don't know what heresy is...along with revealing your ignorance in your past demonstrations of a belief in a work based salvation which includes a seriously messed up object of faith, I might add.

    Other than that all you have have to do is show another president that's done/doing more for Christian values in the last 30 or more years and you could be half right, but that ain't happening...so.
     
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    I don't believe in a works based salvation. I think I stated that. I believe that a genuine Christian conversion results in a born-again changed life. Read the Judgement description in MAT 25.
     
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    Still at church five months later:

    www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/style/sandra-tsing-loh-religion.html
     
  11. InTheLight

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    Nice butchering of the article. Author is a flaming liberal. Here are some sections of the article Jerome left out:

    But that Sunday, I set off for All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, Calif.: long-established, famously liberal, robustly attended.

    youths in all hues of literal and figurative rainbows were bravely persisting, in magical four-part harmony:

    And recognize that there are ties between us,
    All men and women living on the Earth.
    Ties of hope and love,
    Sister and brotherhood.


    Now the Rev. Mike Kinman opened his sermon, with a Boomer-friendly reference: “John Lennon sang, ‘Nobody told me there would be days like these.’ But our Gospel does. ‘Strange days indeed.’”

    Mr. Kinman described Christ as “a dark-skinned refugee who died for love with his hands up because he challenged the authority of a police state.” He denounced the president-elect by name.

    The service was followed by a group-therapy session where a mike was passed and everyone described their feelings in three words. After that, I scanned the rich volunteer opportunities. I got so jazzed I think I signed up for building a mission in Bolivia and singing in a gay men’s chorus.


    So I wouldn't get all jazzed up with the idea that since Trump won, more people are going to church if this is the sort of message they are hearing!

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    I'm fooored at the lengths people will got to defend Trump. This deliberate attempt by Jerome to cherry pick such an atrocious article is one of the most ridiculous attempts I've seen to date.
     
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    Yes, the amount of rationalization by Christians to justify their support of Donald Trump is astonishing.
     
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    Good; then stay down there.
     
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    Clever retort, Alcott.

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    Okay, I will?
     
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    It's hard to support the Oompa Loompa as his behavior has been less than grace filled. His comments, early in his campaign, where he refused to seek forgiveness while saying he was a Christian showed a disonance with saving faith.
    I pray for President Trump because God has placed him as leader of the country I live in. God calls me to pray for the peace of the city (and by such prayer for the nation) that I live in. I ask God to give President Trump wisdom so that I might be able to live at peace with my neighbors.
    If the church being written about is a social gospel progressive church, then it likely denies the deity of Christ and teaches a post-modern relativism which results in an empty and spiritually dead message where Jesus is created in their own image.
     
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    Why is that a question?
     
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