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Which is your gospel?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Crabtownboy, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    This is the gospel.

    1 Corinthians 15:3-4
    [3]I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said.
    [4]He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.

    That's the gospel. Anything else is a false gospel, which ushers a person toward hell.

    What you are asking is: How do you show compassion and obedience to the Sovereign King, Jesus?
     
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  3. HankD

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    Neither is the Gospel.

    The forgiveness of sin and the promise of eternal life comes through faith in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ is the gospel.

    HankD
     
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  4. Squire Robertsson

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    How true, how true.
     
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    Crabby, please see your Dr., ASAP!
     
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    I only see Passover and Pentecost here as the gospel. I see nothing about the gospel being the Kingdom of God (Tabernacles). I mean, if one makes an automobile, but in the beginning it crashed so that it's a total wreck, and a Master mechanic came to fix it, then I must say that it is indeed important to fix it. But that's the necessary step to continue on driving it again. We don't just stand around forever and admire how nicely it was fixed. If it won't be driven again, then it effectively has not been fixed. The church are the chosen firstfruits who will become like Him, Kings and Priests to show God's way to the fallen world in the Kingdom, and even a greater harvest will then come. And the last Great Day will be the most before a new heaven and new earth. Heaven is actually coming down to earth, and Christians are in training now for that Day to show the rest.
     
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    Of course there is a duty (actually a privilege) of God's children to do good works post-rebirth.

    Ephesians 2
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
    10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    Our lives as members of "a holy priesthood" (1Peter)" should be characterized by good works.
    However I believe it is misleading to the function of that priesthood to mingle it with political jargon.

    The Kingdom of God and being used of God to help others with and in a salvation relationship with Jesus Christ is our primary reason for being left here on planet earth.

    Food, clothing, shelter and protection from earthly evils are very important as the scripture repeatedly admonishes us but they are secondary to the gospel.

    Yes, there are some earthly situations so desperate that they necessitate immediate relief.

    But the temporary must ultimately give way to the eternal.

    HankD
     
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    Who says anything else is a false gospel? Love is the true Gospel, it encapsulates the whole of Christ's reason for even coming here. Everything in that one simple word - love. LOVE God! LOVE your enemies! LOVE your neighbor! It's all about LOVE!
     
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    Well Adonia, I believe (don't know for sure) MennoSota has in mind the scripture which warns of "another gospel"

    Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    The scripture itself is a love gift via the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and I don't believe we should glibly set this particular scripture aside in the name of that love.

    HankD
     
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    The theology of the Beatles...guaranteed to point a person straight toward hell.

    "In this is love, not that we have loved God, but that he has loved us (the elect) and sent his Son to be the propitiation (atoning sacrifice) for our sins."
    ~ 1 John 4:10

    Your idea that "love is the true gospel" needs significant clarification. As you have expressed it, it is categorically false.
     
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    Neither is the Gospel!
     
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    Really. Since when is Matthew not part of the gospel?
     
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    How is it false? The Scriptures tell us to love God first (which is why I put that first). Jesus said we are to love our enemies. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. No, what I said is categorically correct so I beg to disagree.
     
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    Yes we love God because He first loved us. But, the gospel is the good news that Christ died for sins and rose again.
    Your response is not the gospel. It's not about you or me in any way, shape or form. Love is not the gospel. Christ's reconciliation for rebel sinners is the gospel.
    1 John 4
    [10]This is real love—not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to take away our sins.
     
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    The Gospel is the birth/life/death/resurrection of Jesus, not that which you listed, those things are done by us after salvation, but not part of salvation itself!
     
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    I gave you to eat and you stole my crops; I gave you to drink and you poisoned my well; I invited you in and you raped my daughter; I clothed you and you drove off with my car; I took you to hospital and you sued me for assault; I bailed you out and you came to my office and shot me dead.
     
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    Gospel: Definition
    1. the teaching or revelation of Christ:
      "it is the Church's mission to preach the gospel"
      synonyms: Christian teaching · Christian doctrine · Christ's teaching ·

    2. a set of principles or beliefs:
      synonyms: doctrine · dogma · teaching · principle · ethic ·
      creed · credo · ideology · ideal · belief · tenet · canon
    3. the record of Jesus' life and teaching in the first four books of the New Testament.


    The Gospel is not just those four things which you mentioned, but four complete books - Matthew, Mark, Luke and John which are collectively known as "the Gospels". For example, today's Gospel reading is Mark 12:28-34 which says:

    28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important? 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God. And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

    So we can now readily see, that love is indeed one of the Gospels of Jesus Christ.
     
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    The Gospel itself is what I laid out, and the Gospels are 4 inspired books that talk on the Messiah Jesus!
     
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    Of course, 4 inspired books that contain more than the 4 things you listed. Why do you say they only concern themselves to 4 specific things?.
     
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    The Gospel message itself is those things I listed...
     
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