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  1. Jason1

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    The churches talk about repentance but never define it except in vague ways. Scripture is explicitly clear on how this is done, over and over. This is a major step in salvation that is often overlooked. Lets find out how.

    The Gospel Message:

    Mat_4:17 From that time יהושע began to proclaim and to say, “Repent, for the reign of the heavens has drawn near.”
    What is sin:

    1Jn 3:4 Everyone doing sin also does lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
    How to repent:

    Deu_30:8 “And you shall turn back and obey the voice of יהוה and do all His commands which I command you today.
    Deu 30:9 “And יהוה your Elohim shall make you have excess in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your body, and in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground for good. For יהוה turns back to rejoice over you for good as He rejoiced over your fathers,
    Deu 30:10 if you obey the voice of יהוה your Elohim, to guard His commands and His laws which are written in this Book of the Torah, if you turn back to יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.

    The repentance formula:

    Eze 18:21 “But the wrong, if he turns from all his sins which he has done, and he shall guard all My laws, and shall do right-ruling and righteousness, he shall certainly live, he shall not die.
    Eze 18:22 “All the transgressions which he has done shall not be remembered against him – in his righteousness that he has done, he shall live.
    Eze 18:23 “Have I any pleasure in the death of the wrong?” declares the Master יהוה. “Is it not that he should turn from his ways, and live?
    David gets it:

    Psa 119:9 How would a young man cleanse his path. To guard it according to Your word?
    Psa 119:10 I have sought You with all my heart; Let me not stray from Your commands!
    Psa 119:11 I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.
    Psa 119:12 Blessed are You, O יהוה! Teach me Your laws. ​

    New Testament admonition:

    Act 3:26 “To you first, Elohim, having raised up His Servant יהושע, sent Him to bless you, in turning away each one of you from your wicked ways.
    Repent to get the Spirit:

    Act 2:38 And Kĕpha said to them, “Repent, and let each one of you be immersed in the Name of יהושע Messiah for the forgiveness of sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Set-apart Spirit.
    Act_5:32 “And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Elohim has given to those who obey Him.
    Final Warnings:

    Rev_3:3 “Remember, then, how you have received, and heard. And watch and repent. If, then, you do not wake up, I shall come upon you as a thief, and you shall not know at all what hour I come upon you.
    Rev_3:19 “As many as I love, I reprove and discipline. So be ardent and repent. ​
     
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    Yes repent. We are waiting for you to repent from your Jason made faith and your false pronouncements.
     
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    They're all in the good book (not the catechism)
     
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    Repent = to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life. [Merriam-Webster]

    David is a great example of a person repenting. Once he realized his sinned he turned from that sin and never committed it again.
     
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    To "repent" means to turn from or against something. God "repented" of the destruction He intended for Nineveh. But to "repent" at the moment of being born again is to "turn against" sin and self while turning to Jesus; and it is a one-time deal. Once saved-always saved. However, repentence of ones wicked ways IS to be repented of throughout a believer's life: just not for salvation
     
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    Once saved always saved is a false doctrine. You must endure until the end (obey). You can always reject the gift by being in open rebellion (disobedience).
     
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    John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
    What does "shall not" mean?


    Here's another....
    Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    Tell me: If someone once knew Him, then later failed to endure and disobeyed, how could Jesus say "I never knew you"?
    I can give you more.
     
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    Hearing His word means you keep the commandments (He is the word and only speaks the Father's word) If you stay in obedience then you shall be saved.

    Iniquity = sin (lawbreaking). If you openly practice disobedience you never did know Him in the first place. They proclaim His name, but did not do what He said:

    1Jn_2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.

    Luk_6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

    Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


     
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    If you are depending on your keeping the commandments to stay saved, you are trusting in yourself instead of trusting Jesus Christ.
    One keeps the commandments because they are already saved by believing on Jesus Christ.

    John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
     
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    Faith = trusting in the promises of YHVH
    Works = actions taken that verify your faith.

    Obedience is not trusting in yourself, it is bowing to the will of the King. If you don't abide in them, then you do not love Him.
     
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    Are you saved?
     
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    Jason is not saved. Jason does not believe Jesus is God, nor does he believe the Holy Spirit is God.
    Jason is a modern day Judaiser, one whom Paul condemned in his writing to the Galatians.
    Jason has been deceptive from the moment he came on this site. By his own standards he is not saved. He falls woefully short. He's dead in his trespasses and sins. Jason needs to repent.
     
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    You're right. He's teaching works for salvation. Repent, regarding salvation, is to change your mind about your old belief system and trust in Christ's blood on the cross and his burial and resurrection. When we believe in that gospel without our works, then we are saved.
     
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    Obedience is required, and those that say it is not are deceived.
    Repenting isn't just changing your mind, its about changing your actions (disobedience to obedience)
    Belief makes you equal to a demon (they believe), what makes a true believer different is their actions (obedience).

    The Messiah and all books of scripture agree:

    Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. ​
     
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    Matthew 19:17 is a great verse where Jesus is clearly claiming to be God, YHWH himself. Yet, you are blind to seeing this truth, Jason.
     
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    The catechism is simply a book that expounds on the teachings of the Catholic Church. You know, sort of like the Jewish commentaries on the Torah and the commentaries on all the other facets of Jewish life and spirituality.
     
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    Yes, and I don't read any of them. All you need is scripture and your life can be complete.
     
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    I know, I know. The problem lies with the answers you keep coming up with as you go it alone.
     
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    You have a problem obeying the Father? Do you need an old guy in a fish hat to tell you how to move?
     
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    I need the Church started by Jesus Christ and it's Bishop who is presently here on this earth.

    1 Thessalonians 5:12 states: "We ask you brothers, to respect those who are laboring among you and who are over you in the Lord and who admonish you".
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    Acts 8 says: 29 " The Spirit told Philip, “Go to that chariot and stay near it.”
    30 Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked.
    31 “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him".

    We have the people whom God has placed over us for the proper instruction of the Scriptures and we are not to make things up by ourselves as we go along our faith journey.
     
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