Featured Spiritual understanding - part 8

I'm not clear on what you are saying, or asking, or the extent of (dis)agreement.

We are body & soul or spirit - I think 2 part not 3.
As the soul is an essential part of us in this life, so whatever happens in our soul must change our bodily conduct. Our new life of faith must be evident in our daily lives.
Full redemption ultimately will be body & soul, & Paul discusses the obvious problem of the resurrection body in 1 Cor. 15.
At death, our soul goes to heaven to enjoy the presence of our Saviour. John see the souls of the martyrs living & reigning with Christ in the first resurrection. (Rev. 20) In Rev. 6 he sees them under the heavenly altar & in Rev. 7 before the throne.

When we are converted we become spiritually alive, having been dead in trespasses & sins. Born again describes that new life. It is not a physical resurrection.

The indwelling Holy Spirit is more than assurance, he is the life of God within us - eternal life. I don't think we can argue about technicalities.

We are alive to God, we have eternal life, & that life continues through death to glory, awaiting the general resurrection to the NH&NE.

What I do not see in Scripture is two physical resurrections, separated by a future millennium, with Israel taking centre stage; rapture; tribulations; physical war; earthly kingdoms, etc, all AFTER Jesus returns in glory for resurrection & judgment. Those complex events cannot be proved from Scripture - they are speculative interpretation based on the old covenant prophecies.

What I do see in Scripture is Jesus declaring himself to be the fulfilment of prophecy, Luke 4, his saving work & Gospel proclamation in fulfilment of OC prophecy. Also his fulfilled prophecy of the AD 70 destruction.

All that remains is his final coming & his command to all of is to serve him faithfully during the present millennium, & to watch & pray. (As Jesus counsels at the end of the Olivet prophecy.)

 

After being disappointed by our hymnbook & "baptism" hymns I wrote this:

Repent and be baptised
and trust the name of Jesus.
The Gospel call comes clear,
He loves & saves and frees us.
Believe with all your heart
He is the Son of God;
your sins are washed away,
cleansed by his precious blood.
2.
The Spirit shows our sin
as guilty cov'nant breakers;
we must be born again,
He'll cleanse, renew, remake us.
Redeemed & saved by grace;
buried & dead to sin;
and raised to life in Christ;
we live new lives in him.
3.
The Father calls us his;
his children by adoption.
The water speaks of blood -
the price of our redemption.
The children of his love;
joint heirs with Christ, God's Son
one family in Christ;
with all his people one.
4.
Reborn, renewed, restored;
eternal life before us.
Christ walks with us each day
till he to glory calls us.
Then we shall see his face;
be free from all our sin;
this Paradise is ours -
repent and come to him.

Copyright - Ian Day
Tune – “Nun danket” “Now thank we all our God,”
Christian Hymns 51 - 67676666

 

To the Law and to the Testimony. If they speak not according to this word there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20​

As usual theology - heretical theology - without Scripture.

 

Pleeeeeeeeease go back and read my posts. And other people's.

You seem to be incapable of learning how to present a Scriptural argument.

 

Ez 37 has a context, beginning at ch 1. Ezekiel is in exile with the Jews. His visions relate to the exiles and those still in Israel.

All the promises to the Patriarchs seem to have failed. Even the temple has been destroyed.

So we come to -

The dry bones are a parable. The Jews are dead to God. Dry bones. God has plans to restore the nation to the promised land, as recorded by Ezra, Nehemiah and Esther, and the later Prophets.

As we read on in the chapter, we see the new covenant nation united under King David with a covenant of peace.

Chapter 36 is relevant. Verses 24-27 prophesy water and Holy Spirit baptism and new hearts and true heart obedience. We read about the fulfilment at Pentecost and in the Epistles.

The restoration of the nation promises therefore relate to the first century fulfilment, when many thousands of Israel recognized their Messiah and received the promised new life.

The fact that many of the Jewish leaders rejected Christ in no way annulled the promises to those who did believe.

We should understand all the OT prophecies in their immediate context, and in relation to Christ and the Gospel. The church, comprising Jew and Gentiles as one body is the fulfilment of OT prophecies.

Ultimately the NH&NE will see the glorious perfection of all God's promises.

 

What point are you making?

 

Shiloh (he whose it is) - a prophecy of the Messiah.

Once Shiloh-Messiah came at the incarnation all the prophecies related to Judah and David began to be fulfilled in Jesus. The gathering began at Pentecost and will be completed at the second coming.

The new covenant nation was born in a day at Pentecost. Zechariah 3:8-9

I don't think the Matthew 25 judgment of the nations is a judgment of nations as nations, but the last day general judgment of every tribe, language, people and nation.