Featured A challenge to both Calvinist and Non-Calvinist

I'm not sure what your point is here. The Lord Jesus came to His own Jewish countrymen and preached the Gospel to them, and they, for the large part, rejected Him.

Again, what are you suggesting? God gave the law and the prophets to Israel and finally sent them His Son. They are without excuse.

We know that God has no desire for the death of the wicked (eg. Ezekiel 18:31-32), and we know that the Lord Jesus says, 'The one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out' (John 6:37). But we also know that people will not come to Christ of their own free will. 'There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside' (Romans 3:11-12). This applies both to Jews and Gentiles (v.9). Unless God sovereignly draws men and women to Christ, they will not come (John 3:19; John 6:44). So God has, in His mercy, given a 'vast crowd' of people to Christ, of 'every nation, tribe, people and tongue' (Revelation 7:9-10). The Lord Jesus has redeemed them at measureless cost, and they will come to Him (John 6:37a) and will be saved.

Individual Calvinists may possibly struggle with these texts, but they never bothered Calvin and they have never bothered me.

Yes it can, as I have shown. You are whistling in the dark.

What it does is that it makes God out to be weak and subject to His creation. 'Salvation is of the Lord' (Jonah 2:9), not of sinners somehow to save themselves.

 

Not only knows, but is active in having history come to pass!

 

Mark 1:15; Matthew 11:28-30 for example.

 

Himself

 

It is, but only the elect can and will accept Him!

 

If God really wanted/desired all to get saved, all would!

 

Get ready for someone to add human works as the reason why all are not saved. They do not comprehend that such an argument makes humans greater in willpower than God. Thus, they argue for a puny god who cannot fulfill his promise.
I reject such an argument as implausible and biblically unsupported. Thus, the word "all" cannot be universally speaking of humanity. It must be speaking of all humans whom God has chosen to redeem.

 

Bible versions are preference of the individual and none that I know of can make the claim to be original to the actual word dictated by God.
MB

 

We're waiting for your greek text...

Mostly, we recognize your question as mentally deficient and not worthy of reply.
Your attempt at insinuating we are afraid of your views is laughable by the number of posts where you are shown to be entirely in error. At some point we stop speaking to a fool.

 

Which Greek text did you use for that?

 

Which one did you pick...and why did you pick it?
I look forward to your answer. Explain the Greek for us.

 

Great! So, you agree that this is the word of God:

Ephesians 1:3-6,10-11
[3]All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ.
[4]Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.
[5]God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
[6]So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.
[10]And this is the plan: At the right time he will bring everything together under the authority of Christ—everything in heaven and on earth.
[11]Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan.