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  1. Yeshua1

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    EVERY reputable Greek expert would translate this as Jesus being very God. The point of the Apostle John was that while Jesus is also very God, he is not the same person as God the father.
     
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    We need to ask the JW questions, but only the Holy Spirit can reveal truth to them, as they cannot receive it apart from Him!
     
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    I hope every baptist Christian here views a visit by JWs or other cult members as a WITNESSING OPPORTUNITY, & doesn't just dismiss them, which stiffens their belief in their cult.

    Remember, those cultists believe they're already saved. But I remind'em that all judgment for salvation has been turned over to Jesus by "Jehovah", that they MUST come to JESUS first if they wanna come to Jehovah.

    BTW, I only let'em know I'm a Baptist if they ask.
     
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    If you are going to respond to what I post you will have to pay attention. Roby did not use the transliteration "Yahweh." He used the translation "Jehovah."
     
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    I know, but think that the JW cannot even find that as being the name of God in the bible itself!
     
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    Puh-leese! Think before you post. Get some facts before you post.

    The word "Jehovah" occurs over 3,000 times in the NWT!
     
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    Yes, I know , but just stating that it does not occur in the Original texts, as that would be actually Yahweh.
     
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    No, it would NOT be "Yahweh" in the "original texts" (whatever that is). If you are talking about the Hebrew text it would be יהוה.
     
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    True, just was saying that in English we would take the name of God to be Yahweh///
     
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    <Sigh> Jehovah. Used 4 times in the KJV of 1611/1769. "Yahweh" = 0.
    Used 15 times in the RV of 1881. "Yahweh" = 0.
    Used 6889 times in the ASV of 1901. "Yahweh" = 0.
    Used 6895 times in the MKJV. "Yahweh" = 0.
    Used 6866 times in the LITV. "Yahweh" = 0.

    Please. Do me a favor. Don't quote me or respond to me in any way from now on and I will do the same to you. I just can't take it any more.
     
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    There is no real good reason to translate it as being jehovah, as it should be either LORD or Yahweh!
    And we will be in heaven forever, so we should agree to get along and play nice my Brother!
     
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    Yes, Jesus is God, as is His Father and the Holy Spirit. But the JWs don't believe that. (BTW, I recognize Jehovah, Yahweh, YHWH as all being God's name, while "God" is His title in English. I likewise recognize "Jesus" and "Yeshua" as the name of the Son of God, our Savior, when they're used in that context.)
     
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    I talk with a JW everyday for five minutes at work. He admits that Jesus is the Archangel Michael and he says that there is no Holy Spirit whatsoever. So when he says Jesus, he is talking strictly about the Archangel Michael. I let him talk, although he knows where I stand, because I value his friendship and I don't want to win a brutal discussion and lose a friend because my plan is long term. I count on Scripture to do the work, not me.
     
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    I reckon it's my personality, but I'm VERY-firm in denouncing false doctrine such as that of the JWs. In talking at length to one, I make sure he/she knows where their "bible" came from, and the sordid history of the beginning of their denomination. (I try not to call it a "cult" in fronta them.)

    To me, it comes down to whether they wanna believe a REAL Bible, or one composed by men.
     
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    Correct
     
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    You can't mean that.
     
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    However you are witnessing and that is mandate.
     
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    Yes, I can.
     
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