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Trump blasts NFL kneelers

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Calminian, Sep 23, 2017.

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  1. Sapper Woody

    Sapper Woody Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, I don't think we should be squelching people's right to free speech by law. But if I had a player/employee who disrespected the flag and my battle buddies by kneeling/sitting during the national anthem, I'd fire them in a heart beat.

    The problem I see is that the people who show this disrespect aren't sending the message they intend (unless of course that message IS disrespect). They say that they are sending a message concerning the systemic racism in our country. Even if that were true, what they are actually doing is disrespecting the men and women who have fought so that they could have the freedom to disrespect them.

    It's idiotic and misguided at best. And that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  2. rsr

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    Maybe you should get out more.
     
  3. HankD

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    Of course he would say it to their face - with the secret service men all around him he no doubt would.

    I have heard immature Christians use vulgar language and I have counseled other Christians of sins that I wish would have only been vulgar language and I am not lying to myself or anyone else.

    I'm not saying President Trump is or isn't a Christian, he has indicated that he is.

    Example, after 3 years of being with jesus
    Mark14
    70 And he denied it again. And a little after, they that stood by said again to Peter,
    Surely thou art one of them: for thou art a Galilaean, and thy speech agreeth thereto.
    71 But he began to curse and to swear, saying, I know not this man of whom ye speak.

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  4. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    It doesn't matter what your skin color, if you resist arrest or assault a police officer, the chances of you being killed goes up exponentially.
     
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  5. church mouse guy

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    What makes you say that poverty is the main reason for crime? That sounds like something that was thought 100 years ago. Adam had a perfect environment and still he took what was not his to take. Judas saw God in the flesh daily and still he sold Him out for money. Maybe love of money is a reason for crime?
     
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  6. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
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    More on this.

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    Former Army Ranger is Only Steelers Player to Stand For National Anthem – His Entire Team Hid in the Locker Room (VIDEO)

    Just think about this. The entire team hid in the locker room, expect this one player who went against his team. Mind blowing. That's okay though. He made a much stronger statement of bravery, alone.

    Also,

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    BURN AND BOYCOTT! Patriotic NFL Fan Torches All His Steelers Gear, Boycotts League: “We Stand for This Country!” (Video)

    Also, actor James Woods deserves some kudos. Had no idea he was so politically incorrect.

    [​IMG]James Woods

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    #Liberals applaud spoiled #NFL millionaires sitting on their asses during national anthem, while Berkeley cancels Free Speech Week... #irony

    8:29 AM - Sep 24, 2017

    [​IMG]James Woods

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    That is correct. Let's not forget that #TimTebow was chastised for "taking a knee" for different reasons. https://twitter.com/liz_wheeler/status/911975279970598912 …

    8:44 AM - Sep 24, 2017

    [​IMG]James Woods

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    #Liberals have supported "taking a knee" from Colin Kaepernick back to Monica Lewinsky.

    8:52 AM - Sep 24, 2017

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    Follow
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    #NFL Ambassadors for America...

    8:07 AM - Sep 24, 2017

     
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  7. Salty

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    NO it is NOT!!! Poverty may be the main excuse for Crime....
     
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  8. Salty

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    So these players are protesting the USA by kneeling and/or staying in the locker room

    What I want to know is what are they doing positive manner to end so - called racism.?

    With many multi-millionaires among them - there is a lot they could do ......
     
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  9. church mouse guy

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    Salty and everyone else, we are surrounded by prima donnas. Blacks have been raising the fist since the Olympics in Mexico--wasn't that about 1968? (Democrats are like vegans--they have to tell you what they are in the first 10 minutes of meeting you.)

    Look, the upper-middle class whites and the very rich whites who inhabit the Colts Stadium, Lucas Oil, in downtown Indianapolis are probably no more patriotic than the players, who seem to be in it just for the money and the politics. However, it is the taxpayers of Indianapolis, who thought nearly a billion dollars of their money on credit for a stadium would be a good idea. So if the NFL now means something like No Fans Left, we will see if the owners will go ahead and spend their own money to keep the wages high for the players and we can laugh at the people of Indianapolis who will now have no chance, if they ever did have one, of getting their money back on the white elephant called Lucas Oil Stadium.

    (And by the way the NBA Pacers probably will never earn enough to pay off the city-held mortgage on their Fieldhouse. And the Pacers would really be in trouble if they couldn't sell alcohol at their games.)

    I would only want to go to a game to have fun--not so much fun anymore, huh?
     
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  10. Calminian

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    The most dangerous place in America for black children is Chicago, from the vicious black gangs that live there. To my knowledge, there's not been a single protest by any black athletes, nor a proposal to help or do anything. If you're a black child in Chicago, no one really cares, save religious leaders, Trump and some white conservatives.
     
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    NFL crowds
    By Mike Huckabee

    I’m sure there are all sorts of reasons the NFL can give you for its current TV ratings and attendance downturns. Of course, none of them will include that football fans tend to be among the most patriotic Americans, the kind who don’t approve of wealthy athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem to show their contempt for America and the flag. No, that has nothing to do with the falling fan interest.

    But just in case they ever get curious about why some NFL stadiums are starting to resemble the sparse crowds at a late-career Spinal Tap concert, a new Rasmussen survey found that 34% of Americans say they are less likely to watch an NFL game because of the protests on the field. Frankly, that’s fewer than I suspected. Then again, do we know how many Americans follow the NFL? If it’s around 34%, then I bet it’s the exact same group of Americans.
     
  12. InTheLight

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    So would I.

    But the President of the United States should not be admonishing private businesses to fire people.

    Agree with you all the way.
     
  13. Calminian

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    So everyone has 1st amendment rights except the President. Finally starting to understand.
     
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    Should not <> Can not
     
  15. Calminian

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    So the president shouldn't defend his country when its anthem/flag is attacked. nice! Shows what you think of your country.
     
  16. InTheLight

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    The President of the United States called an entire group of people SOB's. Is that presidential? Is that uniting or divisive?

    Do you think the NFL players and owners should just roll over when they are called SOB's and agree with Trump? What was Trump expecting would happen?

    I agree with what Trump said, but he could have said it more diplomatically or even had someone else say it for him. Who's the secretary of Labor?
     
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    Evidence please. I heard him call anthem kneelers SOBs, and no one else. Support your claims with links or withdraw them.
     
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  18. InTheLight

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    Yep, kneelers during the anthem--that's an entire group of people.

    Do you want a self-professed Christian leader of the greatest nation on earth to call people SOB's?
     
  19. Calminian

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    I personally would use the term ingrate. And I do believe Trump is behaving more righteously than many Christians who oppose him.

    What you about you, a self proclaimed conservative, defending these ingrates?
     
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  20. InTheLight

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    Yeah, get back to me when your reading comprehension and memory improves.
     
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