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Bowe Bergdahl to plead guilty

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  1. carpro

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    Bowe Bergdahl to Plead Guilty to Desertion, Misbehavior Before the Enemy to Avoid Trial - Breitbart


    U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is expected to plead guilty this month to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy after being exchanged by the previous administration for five high-risk Taliban commanders in 2014.
    By pleading guilty, Bergdahl will avoid facing a trial for abandoning his Afghan post in 2009, reports the Associated Press (AP), citing two unnamed sources.

    Taliban terrorists reportedly kidnapped Bergdahl after he left his post and held him captive for about five years until the former U.S. president authorized the controversial exchange in 2014.

    The sources told AP that American service members who were seriously injured searching for the alleged deserter would testify during sentencing, which is scheduled to start on October 23.
     
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    I had honestly forgotten all about that cowardly traitor. Not sure what the advantage of abiding trial is on his case.

    Personally, while this may sound bloodthirsty, I hope they give him the maximum sentence for desertion in wartime: death.

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    I don't believe it's even under consideration.

    But "misbehavior before the enemy" carries a life sentence, which Bergdahl say is too stiff a penalty. Imagine that.

    Life is far too light a sentence.
     
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    Just a reminder of who Obama illegally traded for this deserter.

    Mohammed Fazl is one of the first freed Guantanamo detainees to be retained from Afghanistan, accused by the UN of committing war crimes, and suspected of taking part in the slaughter of thousands of Shiite Muslims.

    Mohammad Nabi, the former chief of Taliban security, arranged cooperative offenses with Al Qaeda, according to declassified files.

    Abdul Haq Wasiq, a deputy to the deceased Taliban chief, Mullah Omar, was one of the top intelligence officials for the jihadi leader. He arranged training with top Al Qaeda operatives.

    Mullah Norullah Nori is a senior Taliban commander who is also wanted by the UN for war crimes, and also took part in the suspected mass killing campaign against Shiites.

    Khairullah Khairkhwa, a Taliban commander, has ties to the Ayatollah’s regime in Tehran. He was reportedly trusted by Taliban chief Mullah Omar to negotiate ties with Iran.



    When the Taliban commanders arrived in Qatar, they were greeted by both the public and officials as heroes, according to video that surfaced following their arrival in Doha.


    An Intelligence Committee statement to the President warning of the Taliban 5’s reengagement in threatening activities is quoted in the report.

    “Despite the current restrictions of the [Memorandum Of Understanding], it is clear… that the five former detainees have participated in activities that threaten U.S. and coalition personnel and are counter to U.S. national security interests–not unlike their activities before they were detained on the battlefield.,” the Intelligence Committee statement said.
     
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    Schizotypal personality disorder is not normally punishable by death. If this kind of stuff can be documented before enlistment in the Army, he probably will not get much disciplinary action. i.e. He never should have been recruited. One report said he came in the Army with a felony waiver. There may be some serious bureaucratic "oops" going on here.

    Included in this Schizo group are those who take pictures of themselves--yep, selfies. These are spin-offs of our narcissistic world. It will be interesting how justice prevails in this one.

    Let's not execute him before due process.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    Yes, this is what so many people are ignoring. He was in the Coast Guard prior to enlisting in the Army. He received a Psych discharge from the CG after only 26 days of service. His psychosis was that obvious.

    He should never have been recruited into the Army. And now he should be found to be incompetent to stand trial and get him into a good counselling program and get him whatever meds he needs.

    Right from the beginning he avoided social contact with his fellow soldiers. He was described as being "psychologically isolated." Why in the world didn't his NCOs and platoon Leaders pick up on these obvious signs of severe emotional disorder? The fact that he had few, if any, close relationships should have set off alarm bells in his command, and his just walking away one day is perfectly in keeping with his Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

    We don't execute or incarcerate the mentally ill. We are better than that. We get them the help they so desperately need.
     
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    I think half the people we execute are mentally ill. These serial killers who eat people are not sane. The ones who chop people up and keep pieces for momentos are not sane. I still enjoy watching the hearse roll out of the prison gates.
     
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    I agree. Our legal system suffers from bi-polar disorder of a sort. There are only two options. Guilty. And Not Guilty. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity is still a Not Guilty verdict.

    We need a third option. "Guilty But Insane." That way they would get the treatment they need but would still be incarcerated.

    I never rejoice at the death of a troubled person, especially at the death of an unsaved person. :(
     
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    I guess I am a lot like David in some of his Psalms. I rejoice at the death of an evil person.
    I don't want to see serial killers protected by any type insanity defense. They are evil people. Son Of Sam is now supposedly saved and is a preacher in prison. He is still creepy and eerie.
    I have only talked to one serial killer. We convicted him of killing 2 people, but we are quite confident he killed well over 20. Being in a room with him felt like being in a room with Satan. The evil oppression was obvious.
     
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    Being happy that someone is executed is revenge
    Being sad that someone is executed is justice.
     
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    It was amazing that the Obama crew could lie to the nation time and time again with straight faces.
     
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    We never execute anyone for being a traitor anymore, which is why such things keep happening.
     
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    Its been happening with regularity. It began in earnest with Lincoln and has continued to this day. The only difference is liberals are never held accountable.
     
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    The problem is without a declaration of war meeting the Constitutional definition of treason (Art. III Section 3) is all but impossible. Further, some states have treason laws. In fact, John Brown was hung under Virginia's treason law, not the Federal law.
     
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    We seem to still have a lot of Inquisition mentality on the planet--this is a subset of the dictator mentality.

    Lack of forgiveness is at the root of our relations with others. Jesus said to 'forgive them they know not what they do'. Jesus forgave us--we still have to die physically.

    Larry Flint said he found Jesus--Flint later recanted. Vengeance is mine saith The Lord, I will repay.

    Eye for eye, tooth for tooth for sure--rule of law for sure--surely not gleefully. It is interesting how the rich and famous can avoid the gallows, also military service.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

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    Fort Bragg, North Carolina (CNN)US Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl could spend the rest of his life behind bars after he pleaded guilty Monday to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.

    Bergdahl disappeared from his base in Afghanistan in June 2009 and was held in captivity by the Taliban until May 2014.
    "I left my observation post on my own," Bergdahl told a judge Monday. "I understand leaving was against the law."
     
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    So the question is "Why did he leave his post"?
     
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    He has suffered from severe psychological problems since his early teens. He was given a medical (psychological) discharge from the Coast Guard before he joined the Army. He should never have been allowed to enlist. Some recruiter needed one more warm body, and the rest is history. :(
     
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    "You know, it's just insulting, frankly," Bergdahl tells Langan. "It's very insulting, the idea that they would think I did that."

    "We may as well go back to kangaroo courts and lynch mobs. They got what they wanted," Bergdahl said. "People who are to the point of saying, 'Yeah, just shoot him' -- you can never convince those people to change their minds."

    No hint that he is responsible for, nor deserves punishment for his behavior, nor any sign of remorse for the death or injury of those looking for him.


    "Retired Army Spc. Cody Full, a member of Bergdahl's platoon in Afghanistan when he disappeared from the base, called Bergdahl a "coward" in an interview with CNN.

    "He was a coward nine years ago when he deserted, and I think he showed he's still a coward," Full said. "He refuses to take responsibility for his actions."
     
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