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Featured The Colorado Wedding Cake Fight

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by tyndale1946, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. JohnDeereFan

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    So, you would participate in something God has called sin "for the glory of God"?
     
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    I don't think the cake has a slogan on it. I have never seen a wedding cake with a slogan. Fact is, a business should be able to serve who they please. If a business wants to say "No Native Americans" I have no problem with that. I would be glad they let me know their heart because I would prefer not give money to someone who hates me.
     
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    The key point to me in this is that the bakers did NOT refuse to assist the gay couple, as they would make anything asked for, but refused to actually cater it and be on the premise. That should be within their rights, as how would a jewish baker feel if compelled to serve a Nazi wedding?
     
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    actually the baker said he is an artist - and that an artist should not be required to make something that he finds objectionable.

    Later someone went to local bakers and asked for a cake with an anti-hom0se/ual message. Judge Alito stated: "It's OK for a baker who supports same-sex marriage to refuse to create a cake with a message that is opposed to same-sex marriage,.... "But when the tables are turned and you have the baker who opposes same-sex marriage, that baker may be compelled to create a cake that expresses approval of same-sex marriage."
    click here for link of story:
     
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    The analysis I've read says that the court will probably decide against the baker on the merits of the case, but will probably decide for the baker based on the fact that Colorado showed egregious anti-Christian bias.
     
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    Freedom means I can refuse service for any reason, whether it's the color of your skin or your fetishes. Simple as that.
     
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    I've asked a person, more than once, to leave my retail store because I didn't like his attitude.
     
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    The answer is both. I believe that there is a difference.

    Suppose I have a T-Shirt company and sell both pre-printed shirts and made to order shirts. I do have the right to discriminate. As such, anyone can buy a pre-printed shirt.

    However, I should not be forced to print any shirt that goes against my conscience.
     
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    Sorry. Don't believe that selling a product to someone is participating.
     
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    Brethren, if i'm running a business, footing all the bills, taking all the risks of running a business, I should have the right to sell or not to sell my wares to anyone I choose. After all, "I'M" the one losing $$ by not selling. The prospective customer is none the worse for wear. He can go to any business he/she chooses.
     
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    I should still be able to operate my business and not be forced to condone activities against my religious beliefs, as if Jewish, hate to be forced to support Nazi party!
     
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    OH, I agree with "should be" but the law - is the law - regardless how bad the law is.
    I trust that the SCOTUS overrules this commision ruling.
     
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    Have you told CVS that; that they're not 'participating' in smoking, dipping, or chewing if they just sell tobacco products?
     
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    Here are the exceptions: White, male, Christian, Conservative, business owner, successful. I am all 6, so there is a target on my back.
     
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