Socialist paradise: Britain cancels 50,000 surgeries

First of all, something can be "better" than something terrible and still be bad or even immoral.

For instance, Hitler was "better" than Stalin, but I think those of us who aren't Democrats are all pretty much agreed that Hitler was pretty bad.

Second, the system we have now is Obamacare. We don't like it, either. That's why we're working to change it and return healthcare to the free market, where it belongs.

 

You keep saying that, but you realize the system we have in place now is Obamacare, right? The system all the Democrats wanted? How is it a "Republicans fantasy world" to claim that Obamacare is working?

Also, who is trying to take away what you have? Were you that concerned about all of the people who lost their insurance coverage because of Obamacare?

 

Actually, we're not a democracy, thank God.

 

Plagiarize much?

 

Well, if you gave me a penny for everytime someone has answered this question, I could retire. If you are indigent, generally you go to the county hospital. They treat you and the federal government refunds the county hospitals.

There is no one without healthcare. There are millions without a card from a health insurance company.

Now in UK, treatment will become available as soon as the political problems are solved (Tories), meanwhile you go on a list unless you are too hold for a treatment, which is also decided on a political basis, huh?

 

Under socialism each citizen's paycheck has about 80% removed (Actually or hidden).

The rest is for you - kind of like a citizen's allowance...

HankD

 

Then why are you seemingly bent on spreading democracy round the world?

 

Rubbish: the top tax rate here is 45%, which I believe is lower than it was your side of The Pond under Eisenhower, so I presume you're going to accuse that Republican President of running a Socialist Paradise in the US in the Fifties, LOL

 

your words not mine.

45% of what?

HankD

 

Things might get tough if we get a bunch of Brits who can't pay their bills over here as tourists and we have to give them tickets back to UK.

 

Of their paycheck

 

Have you been reading biographies of Adlai Stevenson or something? The high tax rates stemmed from FDR. Actually, we are too broke to afford an expensive medical system such as you have. Hopefully, we are abolishing the old rule that health insurance could not be sold across state lines and that should lead to cheaper policies. Our medicines are expensive because we have the costs of R&D calculated into the consumer cost. We do a lot of R&D here.

 

Trump's sending back a bunch of Salvadorians who have overstayed their welcome. We'll just stick them on the plane with the Salvadorians.

 

Good question. We shouldn't be doing that. That's the Progressives.

 

Driven by the U.N.

There should be no question right now on America’ s stance on them right now.

Silly argument.

 

The industries had become so inefficient that the government could no longer afford to subsidise them Most were crippled by strikes.

I commuted by rail for most of my working life. I can remember the overcrowded, dirty, slow, regularly late trains. With private companies we have new trains. still slow though. Slower than when I first moved to Kent. That is because we now have high speed trains, which out of the rush hour are slower than when I moved down here. Even then Old Time Commuters on the line said that the service was slower than in the steam train days.

Te only reason that the high speed train is faster than the ordinary trains is that they have added lots of extra stops on the non high speed line. A fast train in those days did the journey in 1hr 10 mins, now it takes over 1½ hours.

 

This comment by a doctor tells it how it is -

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155560820911939

 

The socialist Govt. allowed the bankers to operate freely when they were supposed to be supervising them.

I am told by US posters on another board that the US is not a democracy but a Republic. Republics are socialist, based on some Greek whose name I can't remember, who taught socialist republics.

 

The Greek was Plato and some republics are socialist, some aren't.

There's nothing inherently "socialist" about a republic. A republic is just a form of government a socialist government may choose.

 

I nearly said Plato, but I wasn't sure. He said the state knew best and they should bring up children, not the parents, That happens in many countries these days,