1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

How Do People Buy Guns Legally?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Squire Robertsson, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    From the Legal Brief
    In the discussions here, many assume the American firearms market is unregulated. Mr. Kraut in this video gives an overview of the real-life hoops buyers and sellers have to jump through. I hope he is able to clear up the misconceptions that keep coming up here.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  2. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    20,080
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Unfortunately, they won't care. They have their narrative and don't care what the facts are.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That very well maybe. But, at least the facts of the matter are now on record in this forum.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2001
    Messages:
    10,994
    Likes Received:
    2,391
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I've never owned a gun but I do recall Uncle Sam gave me one but then he took it back... I guess that was because he gave me a Tank... He didn't let me keep that one either... Brother Glen:Biggrin
     
    #4 tyndale1946, Feb 24, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Saved-By-Grace

    Saved-By-Grace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2000
    Messages:
    1,545
    Likes Received:
    56
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The facts as seen around the world are very simple. The USA, like no other country, has the highest number of mass murder, especially in their schools, where young kids have access to weapons to murder. You might not like this, but this is FACT. I also hear that in many Churches, workers carry guns, because here too there has been an increase in people being murdered. Another fact, because of your "right to arms", millions of weapons to commit murder have fallen in to the wrong hands, and it is not far too late to do anything about it. The ONLY hope is that more people get converted and become true followers of the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. thatbrian

    thatbrian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,686
    Likes Received:
    389
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Cain killed his own brother by crushing his skull with a rock. No permit required.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. Gold Dragon

    Gold Dragon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    5,143
    Likes Received:
    149
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Making sure you have a NICS that works correctly and is enforced would be a good first step to changing the situation.

    How The National Instant Criminal Background Check System Works

    List: 13 gaping holes in FBI gun background check system

    NICS doesn't work largely because the NRA has been doing its best to sabotage it every chance it had.

    The NRA Is Taking Credit For the Background Check System It Tried to Sink

    NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org

    The gun industry (NSSF) is fortunately making some progress in the right direction.

    FixNICS | FixNICS.org
     
    #7 Gold Dragon, Feb 24, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
  8. Saved-By-Grace

    Saved-By-Grace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2000
    Messages:
    1,545
    Likes Received:
    56
    Faith:
    Baptist
    we are dealing with 2018, not 5000 B.C!
     
  9. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,428
    Likes Received:
    1,574
    Faith:
    Baptist
    We were dealing with “Sin” both then and now. Just the thought of committing murder will probably eventually become actual / physical murder... that is the true violent instrument(weapon) not a machine loaded with gun power projectiles.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    38,982
    Likes Received:
    2,615
    Faith:
    Baptist
    • Winner Winner x 1
  11. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,857
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In Indiana, when you buy a gun, the shop owner takes your ID and runs it through a check before he takes your money. The check is to determine if you have any felony convictions for one thing and I don't know what else.
     
  12. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,428
    Likes Received:
    1,574
    Faith:
    Baptist
    In NJ, you gotta get a permit which requires BRC by your local police, your State Police, the FBI....and maybe your mother. That entitles you to go and shop and buy, however it takes time. I didn’t say that that entitles you to carry, or hunt... only purchase. BTW there is a time restriction and a quantity restriction imposed as well.
     
  13. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    33,428
    Likes Received:
    1,574
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Do they ask your race, if you are a Vet etc?
     
  14. TCassidy

    TCassidy Late-Administator Emeritus
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    20,080
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    Faith:
    Baptist
  15. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    And in this day and age there are many more violent people running around who won't hesitate to assault or kill you - even in your own home. While I can respect your heeding of Jesus's words to "turn the other cheek", most of us would rather have the means to effectively protect ourselves and our families.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Gun deaths are horrible, drunk driving deaths are horrible, medical error deaths are horrible, abortion deaths are horrible

    Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

    Turn the other cheek - indicates a non-life threatening confrontation.

    You have the right to defend your life.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I agree, but some Christians like our friend might look at these words differently.
     
  18. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    True but then he has to grapple with that if and when the murderer comes to his front door.

    No one can predict what they will go in the face of death until they arrive there.
     
  19. Wesley Briggman

    Wesley Briggman Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Messages:
    1,312
    Likes Received:
    391
    Faith:
    Baptist
    This horse has been beat to death. Murder is against the law. Therefore, all murders are outlaws. So what?

    While I might chose to turn the other cheek if I am offended, that does not apply to family, friends or loved ones. I will strike out to defend them.
     
  20. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I beg the differ Wesley, only 1 page so far? We are just getting started :)
     
Loading...