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Predictions/Opinions - 2018 Midterm Elections

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by kyredneck, Feb 28, 2018.

  1. 777

    777 Well-Known Member
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    Maybe okay to register for the draft before 21, but not actually eligible to be drafted. This is an enumerated right we're talking about here, it's like saying the 4th doesn't apply until 21, or there's no 1st Amendment under 21 - it will be found to be unconstitutional, unless there is a federal amendment ratified.


    Don't think this one is such a big deal, whoever wins will have to run again in November, and the district will change early in 2019 but both parties are gunning for the "symbolic victory" here. Lamb is trying to pretend he's a conservative D, Saccone is letting Trump drop everything to campaign there and the tariffs were said to be targeted to win this particular district.

    Lamb will have to have a big turnout to win and he'd win narrowly, but that's still possible, although I doubt Trump would be pushing this if the internal polls didn't actually show Saccone with a lead,
     
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    Yeah, the candidate lost [most likely] that one for himself, Trump couldn't pull it out for him, and, the Democrat Lamb literally ran like a Republican to win it.

    RNC Spokeswoman: Conor Lamb Ran Like a Republican, Will Vote Like a Dem
     
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    Yeah, PA-18 is probably going into a recount but it looks like Lamb did win narrowly. Never could see how it was anything but symbolic, now the winner will have to run again in six months and could even face a primary challenger. And then the district may not even exist as is after they finally finish the map.

    I think it was a thing of all politics being local, Lamb sounded just like Donald Trump on trade and guns and the last GOP congressman was exposed as a big hypocrite on abortion.
     
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    As a Conservative Independent who loves watching the news, this looks to be a Democratic wave year for the House, but I doubt they take the Senate. The problem is that given who is up for election in the Senate, the Republicans are likely to walk away with more seats. However, unless the Republicans figure out what is hurting them with people who voted for President Trump but voted against Rick Saccone, which honestly is beyond my knowledge and it seems theirs, then the Democrats gain the House.
     
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    I know, right? I wonder why the RNCC spent $9M trying to keep that seat?
     
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    The best the democrats can do in November is make the Senate 50/50. I live in Texas and Beto O'Rourke is getting a lot of press and he is out-fundraising "Lying Ted" by a lot, but I don't see him actually winning.

    The House, on the other hand, may indeed see a blue wave if Pennsylvania and Alabama are any indication.
     
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    He's a purple democrat, to be sure, but I don't think it's fair to say he ran like a Republican.

    Lamb is unequivocally supportive of Roe v. Wade, was critical of Trump's tax cuts ("A giveaway to wealthy people"), voted against a 20-week abortion ban, and was against the attempts to repeal Obamacare

    My response to "Lamb just ran as a Republican" is then why didn't people just vote in the actual Republican who outspent him by 5 to 1?
     
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    Watch out for George Soros in the midterms. He has been spending lots of money in favor of leftist Democrats in small races of late, and he will surely be spending lot's more money in the midterms to elect his fellow travellers.
     
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    But that's not exactly what happened - true, the conservative, independent groups out raised him, but the Democrats outspent him:

    GOP, conservative groups have spent $10 million-plus on PA-18 special election - CNNPolitics

    Lamb has roots in PA a mile long, Gramps was PA Speaker of the House, he is no carpet-bagging Ossoff and he had charisma in spades over Saccone. And Lamb did fall all over himself to align with Trump on trade, a big deal over there right now.

    I don't know if you can extrapolate anything from this or Moore's loss - RNC and DNC don't have the money to throw away in every race, Alabama GOP had an awful candidate, but Lamb was a dream candidate.
     
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    According to the bar graph at the beginning of your link, over $10M was spent on Saccone and about $3M was spent on Lamb. This includes campaign funds and the millions poured in from outside sources. So it looks like Lamb was outspent about 3 to 1 instead of the 5 to 1 I said earlier.

    The same article says that Lamb's campaign raised $3.9 million while Saccone's raised $600,000. What does that tell us?
     
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    The bar graph is outside spending only, and Saccone really did a huge infusion of "outside money" and blew it.

    Pa. Special Election Exposed a Big Flaw in GOP Campaign Spending

    the final numbers are not in but of course money can't always buy an office. But in this case, Lamb ran many more tv ads and that helped, not just by quantity, but by quality as well.

    What does that tell "us"? That Lamb was the better fundraiser and that you glossed over:

    Who Financed the Georgia Sixth, the Most Expensive House Election Ever

    where the final numbers are in, and the biggest spender lost that race as well. And Lamb did run far to the right, especially in his constant tv ads:

    Conor Lamb Supports Extreme Pro-Abortion Position | National Review

    but your narrative is that there's going to be a big blue wave in November and then then then your party will take the House and impeach Trump with the help of Senate RINOs and then everything will be roses and sunshine, so good luck with that.
     
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    It's news like this that cause me concern:

    Liberal Dallet easily takes Wisconsin Supreme Court race

    "MADISON, Wis. — Rebecca Dallet, a liberal Milwaukee judge, easily defeated conservative Michael Screnock Tuesday in the race for Wisconsin Supreme Court, fueling optimism among Democrats for more victories in the fall midterms.

    The race for a 10-year seat was nonpartisan in name only, with millions in ad spending and public endorsements from the likes of Joe Biden, Eric Holder and the National Rifle Association....."
     
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    Oh, it's cause for concern but no need to overreact - still just don't know, probably won't be able to guess correctly until after the summer but if the D generic ballot thing is D +7, and if that continues into September or so, they may take the House narrowly, or just fall short.

    You need a wave for sure to take the majority, look at history - this time in 2010 (the O's first midterm), you had the R's up by 1 and then they won by 6.8 and became the House majority. Then, I'll concede politics is much more fluid then most think, back in 2006, it was around D +10 in April, then the D's took the House by a little under 8.

    RealClearPolitics - Opinion, News, Analysis, Video and Polls

    Really, there's just a handful, maybe 40 seats at the most, up for grabs - the vast majority are solid D or solid R, thanks to gerrymandering and the rural/city/suburban split - the others, many concentrated in the suburbs, are the ones to watch.
     
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    Trump haters are ever hopeful. Not for election reversals, but punishment for his personality. They want him punished for who he is, not what he has done.

    Any charge against him, even the most outlandish, gives them hope.

    It's really pitiful.
     
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    This one has surprised me. I thought Cruz was secure in TX::

    Why the close Cruz-O'Rourke poll should make the GOP nervous

    "Washington (CNN)The perennial speculation about whether Texas could turn blue flared up with fresh legitimacy on Wednesday after a new poll from Quinnipiac University indicated incumbent Republican Sen. Ted Cruz could have a tight race on his hands.

    The survey showed Cruz earning the support of 47% of registered voters vs. 44% supporting his opponent, Democratic Rep. Beto O'Rourke. That topline alone is bad news for the former 2016 presidential hopeful in Texas, where Democrats haven't won any statewide race in a quarter century.

    But before Democrats start popping the champagne, the poll lays out some contours of the race that will shape the Lone Star State battle in the months to come. Here's the good news (and the bad) for Cruz and O'Rourke in the Quinnipiac survey.

    Good news for Cruz:
    This poll result came among all registered voters, a traditionally more Democratic-leaning group than likely voters are. But it's possible Democratic enthusiasm could make up some or all of that difference.

    Bad news for Cruz: Incumbent Republican Gov. Greg Abbott is ahead by 7 and 9 points in the same poll over his own Democratic opponents, dwarfing Cruz's lead with a margin similar to Donald Trump's in Texas in 2016. So -- this might just be Cruz's problem.

    Good news for O'Rourke:
    Cruz is down 14 points among independents, a group Trump won by the same margin in 2016, according to exit polls. Plus, 59% of independents disapprove of Cruz's job performance and 57% say he doesn't share their values.

    Bad news for O'Rourke:
    O'Rourke holds only a 4-point lead among women, similar to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's 2-point win among women on her way to a statewide loss. He'll likely need to grow that to double digits to win in November.

    Good news for Cruz:
    O'Rourke has a lot of name-recognition work to do. A majority of Texas voters -- 53% -- hasn't heard enough about O'Rourke to share an opinion of him.

    Bad news for Cruz:
    Texans like what they see of O'Rourke so far. His favorable numbers with Democrats are a staggering 54% favorable to 2% unfavorable. Independents like him as a person by 3-to-1. Even Republicans are evenly split on that question.

    Good news for O'Rourke: Trump's approval rating is underwater: 43% approve and 52% disapprove. Plus, by 3-to-1, independents say their vote is more to oppose Trump than to support him.

    Bad news for O'Rourke:
    People think Cruz would do a better job than O'Rourke on the economy, taxes, immigration and gun policy. They're even virtually tied on health care, a key issue where Democrats have a wide advantage nationally.

    Good news for Cruz:
    Cruz still has his head above water on key personal qualities like honesty, leadership skills and caring about average Texans.

    Bad news for Cruz:
    The groups with the highest share of undecided voters are Hispanics and people under 35 years old, key Democratic groups who will likely come home.

    This Quinnipiac University poll was conducted April 12-17 among 1,029 registered voters in Texas. The margin of sampling error is ±3.6 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups...."
     
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    Cruz is not well liked by anyone I know. That being said, he will still beat O'Rourke handily.


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    Poll: Majority Say Dem Candidates ‘Out of Step’ With Most Americans’ Thinking

    "A majority of respondents in a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll of registered voters said Democratic congressional candidates are out of step with most Americans.

    Asked whether Democratic candidates’ approaches to the issues “are generally in the mainstream of most Americans’ thinking, or are generally out of step with most Americans’ thinking,” 56 percent said they are “out of step” and just one-third said they are “in the mainstream.” These figures are a marked swing from July 2016, when only 42 percent of respondents said Democratic congressional candidates were out of step and 48 percent said they were in the mainstream.

    In the July 2016 poll, Republican candidates were seen as much less mainstream than Democrats, with 31 percent of respondents saying the Republicans were in the mainstream and 59 percent saying they were out of step. A slightly higher percentage of respondents in July 2018 see Republicans as mainstream (33 percent) and a slightly smaller percentage of them see Republicans as out of step (57 percent.)…"
     
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    War Chest: RNC Is About To Make A Huge Investment To Protect The GOP Majority In Congress

    "The Republican National Committee is about to drop some serious cash to defend GOP majorities in the upcoming 2018 midterms, and it’s not like they’ll be sinking heavily in debt in the process either. They’re planning on dropping $250 million this cycle. They have a little over $50 million cash on hand, with an additional $213 million raised for the 2017-2018 cycle. The RNC raised $13.9 million in June alone, a record for an off-year election. The committee has no debt. This is the most money the RNC has raised for a midterm cycle ever, and 99 percent came from small dollar donors.

    “What I see when I travel the country is that Americans continue to be enthusiastic about President Trump and the Republican agenda. That enthusiasm has allowed for me to grow our war chest and invest it into what has become the biggest ground game in our Party’s history,” said RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel in a statement. The chairwoman has done her work in the trenches as well, reportedly on the phone for several hours a day with donors. She’s also traveled over 150,000 miles, attending 88 fundraisers in 29 states to continue to fill the GOP coffers.

    Since January, the RNC added 100,000 new online donors. The average donation was around $30. Besides the eventual ad buys, the money is also funding an administration that is working to ensure victory come November. You need state directors, regional field directors, communications directors, field organizers, and data crunchers. The RNC has deployed 500 staffers in 27 states this year.

    We’re going to need every penny. While we’ve seen the GOP reclaim some ground, especially on the generic ballot, Democrats still lead, albeit by single digits now. Trump is driving voter enthusiasm on both sides. Democrats know they can kill the Trump agenda if the House is retaken. Republicans know that as well. We have 106 days until Election Day. That’s an eternity in politics.

    As for the Democratic National Committee, well, they’re millions in debt, the Democratic small donor army has mostly evaporated, and vampire Hillary sucking more cash outof the committee for access to their campaign’s data and email lists doesn’t help. Then again, I’m not complaining about that. "
     
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    Why isn't Cruz popular?
     
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    NBC Poll: Democratic Ballot Advantage Shrinks To Six Points, But GOP Far From Being Out Of The Woods

    "...The NBC/WSJ poll shows 49 percent of voters preferring a Democratic-controlled Congress as the outcome for November’s midterm elections, versus 43 percent who want Republicans to stay in charge.

    That 6-point lead in congressional preference for Democrats is down from last month’s 10-point margin, 50 percent to 40 percent, though the difference is well within the survey’s margin of error.

    Independent voters prefer a Democratic-controlled Congress by more than 20 points, 48 percent to 26 percent.

    And Democrats continue to enjoy an enthusiasm advantage heading into the midterms: 65 percent of Democratic voters have a high level of interest in the upcoming elections — registering either a “9” or “10” on a 10-point scale — compared with 49 percent of GOP voters...."

    "....a lot could happen, but there’s more than enough time on the clock for things to change—and more than enough for the GOP to work with to stave off electoral disaster. We're 106 days away from Election Day. Be on the lookout as Democrats will try to make this cycle about health care as well, some have already made that pitch. Still, it doesn't negate the fact that the Democratic advantage has started to atrophy. "
     
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