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UK Police Hunt Down Citizens for Speaking Out Against Grooming Gangs

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by thatbrian, Mar 14, 2018.

  1. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    I'm off FB for Lent, lol. But I have posted there about 'honour' acid attacks committed by Muslims. No one arrested me or boycotted my business. As a lawyer, I have to be more careful about what I post, but that's because im.a professional held to a higher standard of behaviour than others. But I'm fine and you're fine as long as one doesn't incite violence against others: there's a difference for example between saying that "I believe Christianity is the only true religion" and "all Muslims are pedos who should be strung up"; the latter would get you into trouble.
     
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    Matt, I'd like you to give a reply to the above.
     
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  3. Rippon

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    Matt, does anyone in the U.K.have the right to say that Sharia Law is evil and that the Koran (Quran) is demonic?
     
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  4. Matt Black

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    It's a false question so not sure how I am to answer it: the authorities don't arrest people for saying that Islam is a false religion
     
  5. Matt Black

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    Yes
     
  6. Rippon

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    I just had a conversation with a fellow American today. He think's it's okay to stand on a soapbox and talk of killing people.
    He said that it is evil and morally repugnant, but that Free Speech means free speech.

    I disagreed. I draw the line where someone is advocating the killing of anyone.

    And as someone mentioned, yelling FIRE in a crowded is not a protected right.

    Freedom of speech should not be taken to the absolute enth degree.
     
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  7. Matt Black

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    It's a criminal offence here (and has been for many many years; this is scarcely a 'new thing' so not sure why y'all are getting so exercised about it) to threaten, incite or otherwise encourage others to commit a crime including a crime of violence. That's what the police (going back to the OP) are worried about: that individuals going round saying the likes of "all Muslims are kiddie-fiddlers and rapists" is more likely to result in a crime of violence being committed against a Muslim.
     
  8. thatbrian

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    Yes. Of course. In a war, so all of a country's citizens fight with weapons? No. The young males directly engage their targets while the the rest support their effort with food, clothing, money. . .

    Islam is a system of control by the state, and the strategy of Muslims is to gain numbers in order to become the majority, manly though having huge amounts of children, which, obviously, women and the elderly are involved in. Once at majority or close enough to it, they simply take control of the host country. The UK has doubled the speed at which they will accomplish their goal by allowing mass immigration.

    You nice tea-sipping Brits are ignorant of the master plan. Do you know that the percentage of Muslims think that suicide bombing is justified? Do you know the percentage of Muslims who want to enact Sharia Law? I won't tell you, because I would rather you find your own sources. You won't believe mine.

    The is a fundamental difference. When Muslims kill, rape, and mistreat women, they do so in obedience to their religion. When Christians do so, they are in direct violation to their religion.

    Most people are ignorant of the Crusades. This 5 minute video is enlightening:

     
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  9. thatbrian

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    You want people arrested for that?!

    Man, you are going to desperately regret this in your lifetime, and again — your poor daughter. . .
     
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    Antifa does it all day long. Have you typed or spoken a word regarding their incitement?

    Also, if free speech doesn't include talk of killing then all talk prior to the American Revolution would have been illegal. It "incited people to violence" and why? Over taxes and lack of representation.

    No, free speech must be free.
     
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    When Christians get back to their fundamentals, when they "reform" they become as Christ taught them, and when a Muslim gets serious, when he is "sold out" for his faith, he grabs a gun and makes bombs.

    The fundamentals are diametrically opposed. Violence is in the DNA of Islam. Love is in the DNA of Christianity.
     
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    OK, all of that is desperately loopy. Therefore, just for you, as you evidently need it, here's a Logical Fallacy Class 101 for you:

    Some Muslims are terrorists. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists?

    Some Jews are terrorists (King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia). Does that mean all Jews are terrorists?

    Some Irish people are terrorists (The Troubles - Wikipedia). Does that mean all Irish are terrorists?

    Some Americans supported these Irish terrorists (NORAID - Wikipedia). Does that mean all Americans support terrorism?

    Some white American Christians are terrorists (Dylann Roof - Wikipedia). Does that mean all white American Christians are terrorists?

    Please answer all of the above
     
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    You want people to die because of that, then?
     
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    I don't even know where to begin. You are so far out there, I don't think I have the time.
     
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    Firstly, I've answered the question in my post. You might want to read it. I took the time to type it.

    Muslims have ISLAM in common. The other groups have no such unifying ideal.

    Learn something about Islam. You are a danger to yourself and others.

     
  16. Matt Black

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    The King David bombers had Zionism in common...etc

    If you can't be bothered to answer my questions, then I can't be bothered to engage with your hysterical posts
     
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    With all my heart I have denounced them. On the BB and off.
    You are getting derailed.

    I said any talk in public in whatever forum saying that certain people needed to be killed is not a 'right" whatsoever.
    Not biblical. The Bible condemns the content and evil hearts of those who say they will kill others.
     
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    Bye, then; no-one's forcing you to post here
     
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    Sure buddy. No way they could have just picked the worst pictures of Trump supports they could find.
     
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  20. Matt Black

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    Although you're right, assuming he had relations with his wife
     
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